Last night, a GH thread was started inquiring about a number of members. Answer of course is a lot of them are here. It went on to the focus of that forum and CleanMPG. There may be some misunderstandings about CleanMPG, based on the responses last night. The focus of CleanMPG (as I understand it) is seeking better fuel economy in any vehicle. Seeking cleaner and renewable energy sources is also a theme. Hypermiling is encouraged here, but if someone joins and simply quits agressive driving, that's also a good thing. As forums grow the diversity of opinions grow. Still, it's up to the administrators to steer the direction of a forum. I've seen both extremes: boards that never grow because only one narrow point of view is allowed, boards that become huge but lose the message. Back to last night, it was mentioned that Wayne was frustrated when people gave bad advise in regards to better fuel economy. I strongly suspect that some of those times, it was people that simply had little or no desire for better fuel economy. Some people buy a hybrid and expect an improvement in fuel economy without any change in driving habits at all. Still others thing a hybrid version of a poser vehicle is good while I see it as wasteful. Got an unpleasant response to my defense of Wayne. It amazes me that a suggestion such as work commuting in a sedan rather than a Suburban, or driving at a steady 65mph rather than 80mph is seen by a few as intolerant. I don't expect everyone to hypermile in compact hybrids, yet some insist I do. A hybrid forum should encourage better driving habits and the choice of moderately-sized vehicles. A hybrid vehicle is no better than the driver. As CleanMPG grows, it a good thing to keep the focus on driving for better fuel economy even as new members join. One final note: a forum like CleanMPG should be a haven from hostile members. If all someone wants to do here is undermine the forum or always disagree with the core beliefs they should not be here. The issue is right to associate, not free speech.