Really boils the blood...

Phil I read some of those posts yesterday and had a hard time holding back then, but if I saw anything making fun of your darling boy I'd have my sunglasses on and spraying bullets in full Arnold mode. So I don't even want to go back there and read such things. All I can say is my Dad was right when he used to say "the masses are asses"

Those last segments you posted recently are all the answer you need.

 

See the Movie High Noon

First, I'm sort of glad I did not have time last night to go to that site philmcneal is having problems with. Insulting one's children is utterly inexcusable - even in a lightly moderated forum, such members should be disaplined by the administrator.

The crude word for an extremely offensive person - a$$**** should be a label everyone would want to avoid. As much as that epithet could provoke a fight if you personally called someone that, why do so many people go out of their way to behave like one and are proud of it!? That behavior goes on in many forums such as the one philmcneal has suffered, countless agressive drivers and road ragers, rudeness in other parts of our daily lifes.

If you have not seen the classic movie High Noon, check it out or at least skim it here. Thumbnail of the movie: A corrupt government lets four outlaws loose and they are coming back to town for more trouble. The town abandons the marshal - he (Gary Cooper) must face them alone. With a little help from his newlywed wife, all four outlaws are killed in the showdown. When the town comes to greet him, he leaves town with his wife for their honeymoon and throws his badge to the ground.

I get nausated by advocates of absolute free expression. Large parts of the internet resemble that town on High Noon with the outlaws. We have to deal with outlaws, trollers, troublemakers, etc....they are in the way of this anarchistic Utopia. I'm also sickened of the arguement that the alternative is some kind of Police State atmosphere.

Hate to say it, but the other place resembles that town with the outlaws returned and taking over the place....and taking pride in it.

 

I don't realy agree. GreenHybrid is still pretty much okay. You have to consider its size. There are very few people that are trouble makers over there and most of the people are friendly. Of course being a moderator I would say something like that but it is true.

 

I agree that very few (two to be exact) were real trouble over there, but they were allowed to roam just like the outlaws on High Noon, and I found that very disturbing. The vast majority of members are OK.

There other think is to nudge some members that driving a hybrid does not condone "fuelish" practices such as crusing at 80mph.

 

good points everyone, my faith is restored again! There is no place like home!

Although funny though one thing I DID notice... most of the flames came from people who drive "fast cars" or "big cars" to begin with.

Smile on for their losses and not mine.

 

I posted there and nothing was shot at me.

The funny thing is most of them run aftermarket wheels and tires or dream to that effect. When somebody tells me there running hondas door frame psi I know there going to bust a rim on the ultra low profile tires. I see it happen all the time with these want to be tunner kids.

I think a few took it to heart and are silently looking into it phil. They wont make a stir with there peers.

I dont know if that was the best artical to use to bring the subject up with.

Just put on a thick skin. I have to remind myself of this daily. Folks like to whine on the net something awful. I get whined at all the time because of my veiwpoints and ways of looking at things. Folks will flame you and run you into the ground or call foul ,, or basicly you hurt my eyes and soul cause they dont like the way you phrased something, do something or so.

OO and get ready for more. As you futher your skillz and become better and better at this and your joy and pride grow. It will be seen by more and more. Someone in that thread may say something to the effect. Man hes a nut about this FE stuff. Aother will google for your post, mpg db's and another convert will be in the making.

 

haha i sure hope so man, i mean you never know if you get at least so many hypermilers under your belt maybe we can have nicer weather too!

I"m a true believer that this can fix a lot of air problems too. Burning the same amount of gas to cover TWICE the distance.

 

philmcneal
Senior Member

Phil, I took the time to read (All-The-Comments) on the other Forum. I have a "Thought" for you. This is from the {The Heart}. Stay way away from that Forum in the Future.

With Respect;

Terry

 

really why's that? hm do you think i'm too agressive? Wayne has recently shown me the light of better ways to convince people to change.

I still haven't given up hope... remember WE USED TO BE LIKE THEM.

There are haters because:

- jealously
- denial
- can't stand the fact we are better than them when it comes to this topic
- personal experience
- safety? (I've never experienced a high speed collion accident, only in parking lots lol... in fact all my accidents were in the parking lots! And I've cleaned them up legally like any responsible citizen would. Plus I still get my discounts

Like Wayne said, give em time and they'll slowly realize. Better than not realizing it at all, we'll get them sooner or later until then we got ourselfs to worry about

edit: after reading that big thread (69 posts yowzers) one more time.... ok your right Tiger hehe lets say I came back with a bloody nose!

 

Actually, I read the thread a couple of times. I didn't think it was that bad, I believe you're getting to some of them. I also searched for "hybrid" and found some interesting entries.

Here and at GH you're "preaching to the choir", out there you could be converting some "infidels".

 

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258611&page=5

like my much smoother approach? notice how i try my best not to poke at anyone.

 

I think Wayne is right. I've read through that thread and they just don't want to listen. Nothing you will say and no evidence you can give will satisfy someone (or a group of someones) who is dead set to argue against you.

I also think that they are confused by too much information all at once. One thing I have learned from technical writing and public speaking (engineering program at a liberal arts college...gotta love it) is that presentation is everything. If you don't "dumb it down" and present it in a sequential, logical manner, the message will be lost every time. What you are saying isn't bad, but I think it might be a little over their heads since this isn't a topic with which they are already familiar.

Something I would like to do is write a basic primer on hypermiling. It might not be as thorough as something that Wayne or Dan could come up with, but this wouldn't be up to that level. I'm thinking more in terms of the bare bones "Fuel Efficiency for Dummies" text that would get a newbie comfortable enough with the concepts and tecnique to get started and see some results. As a collective effort I think it would be very valuable. We could refer people like this to it as "Book 1" in the series, at which point the pros can start teaching the students from a somewhat higher level.

 

Ok i'll hang out here more often heh, help out those who came here.