Tesla 2024 US Sales Down 5.6% With 633,762 Vehicles Sold

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] Even with the CT added to the 2024 lineup, volumes are heading south in one hell of a hurry.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – Jan. 3, 2025

    2025 Tesla Model Y

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    The redesign improves the platforms appearance but the underpinnings do not revolutionize it.​

    The 2025 Tesla Model Y has finally been redesigned with some decent specs as described below.
    • 327 mi Range
    • 4.1 sec from 0-60 mph
    • 76 cu. ft. of cargo w/ power folding rear seats – suspect as passenger and cargo volumes have been grossly exaggerated by Tesla in the past
    • 6.6” ground clearance
    • 15.4" Center Touchscreen
    • 8" Rear Touchscreen
    • 4,396 lb. curb weight
    • 250 kW peak charge rate
    • 4 years or 50,000 mi, base warranty
    • 8 years or 120,000 mi powertrain and battery warranty
    The exterior is completely redesigned plus an updated suspension and quieter wheels and tires.

    With sales of the current Model 3/Y lineup tanking, the starting price for the launch edition at $61,630 incl D&H will make many pause.

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    2024 Tesla US Sales Overview

    Tesla 2024 US Sales of 633,762 vehicles were down 5.6% below the 671,616 sold in 2023.

    2024 Mazda US Sales Highlights
    • CT sales of 38,965 was sort of a highlight as it was introduced in 2024
    In Q4 2024 globally, Tesla produced 459,000 and delivered over 495,000 vehicles while deploying 11.0 GWh of energy storage products – a record for both deliveries and deployments. For all of 2024, Tesla manufactured 1,773,443 and sold 1,789,226 vehicles worldwide.

    2024 Chevrolet Silverado EV

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    GM retains its #1 ranking in terms of US sales. All the while the Chevrolet Silverado EV is easily the best EV Pickup available today.​

    Top 15 2024 US OEM Sales
    1. GM - 2,705,080 vehicles sold in 2024, up 4.3% over the 2,594,698 sold during all of 2023
    2. Toyota - 2,332,623 vehicles sold in 2024, up 3.7% over the 2,248,477 sold during all of 2023
    3. Ford - 2,078,832 vehicles sold in 2024, up 4.2% over the 1,995,912 sold during all of 2023
    4. Honda - 1,423,857 vehicles sold in 2024, up 8.8% over the 1,308,186 sold during all of 2023
    5. Stellantis - 1,303,570 vehicles sold in 2024, down 14.6% below the 1,527,090 sold during all of 2023
    6. Nissan - 924,008 vehicles sold in 2024, up 2.8% over the 898,796 sold during all of 2023
    7. Hyundai - 836,802 vehicles sold in 2024, up 4.4% over the 801,195 sold during all of 2023
    8. Kia - 796,488 vehicles sold in 2024, up 1.8% over the 782,451 sold during all of 2023
    9. Subaru - 667,725 vehicles sold in 2024, up 5.6% over the 632,086 sold during all of 2023
    10. Tesla - 633,762 vehicles sold in 2024, down 5.6% below the 671,616 sold during all of 2023
    11. Mazda - 424,382 vehicles sold in 2024, up 16.8% over the 363,354 sold during all of 2023
    12. VW - 379,178 vehicles sold in 2024, up 15.2% over the 329,029 sold during all of 2023
    13. Mercedes - 374,101 vehicles sold in 2024, up 0.3% over the 373,103 sold during all of 2023
    14. BMW - 371,346 vehicles sold in 2024, up 2.5% over the 362,244 sold during all of 2023
    15. Audi - 196,576 vehicles sold in 2024, down 14.0% below the 228,550 sold during all of 2023
    On the 2024 US OEM sales front, the big news was Stellantis falling from #3 to #4, now settling in behind Honda for the first time ever due to its terrible 2024 showing here in the US.

    Tesla has fallen to #10 just behind Subaru while Mazda leapt two places to #11 placing both VW and Mercedes in its rear view.

    VW also jumped up two spots to #12, now ahead of both Mercedes and BMW.

    2025 Toyota RAV4 PHEV

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    A name change from "Prime" with the next gen set for a 2026 MY release.​

    Top 10 2024 US Model Sales
    1. Ford F-Series incl. LD and HD - 765,649 vehicles sold during 2024, up 2.0% over the 750,789 sold in all of 2023
    2. Chevrolet Silverado incl. LD and HD - 552,836 vehicles sold during 2024, down 0.4% below the 555,148 sold in all of 2023
    3. Toyota RAV4 - 475,193 vehicles sold during 2024, up 9.3% over the 434,943 sold in all of 2023
    4. Honda CR-V - 402,791 vehicles sold during 2024, up 11.4% over the 361,457 sold in all of 2023
    5. RAM P/U incl. LD and HD - 373,120 vehicles sold during 2024, down 16.1% below the 444,926 sold in all of 2023
    6. Tesla Model Y - 372,613 vehicles sold during 2024, down 6.6% below the 398,782 sold in all of 2023
    7. GMC Sierra incl. LD and HD - 322,946 vehicles sold during 2024, up 9.2% over the 295,737 sold in all of 2023
    8. Toyota Camry - 309,876 vehicles sold during 2024, up 6.6% over the 290,649 sold in all of 2023
    9. Nissan Rogue - 245,724 vehicles sold during 2024, down 8.7% below the 271,458 sold in 2023
    10. Honda Civic - 242,005 vehicles sold during 2024, up 20.6% over the 200,381 sold in all of 2023
    Comparing individual models, Pickups still dominate with Ford and its F-Series dominating all comers. 2024 US F-150 sales of 460,915 fell behind the RAV4 at 475,193 by 14,278 vehicles.

    RAM has fallen precipitously from its decades long, former #3 spot to #5 with Toyota’s RAV4 and Honda’s CRV now outpacing it.

    Tesla’s Model Y fell two places from #4 to #6 as the RAV4 and CRV passed it in 2024.

    As expected, Honda’s award winning compact Civic moved into the #10 spot with the value-oriented Corolla falling short of this year’s list by just over 9,000 vehicle sales.

    2025 Ford Mustang Mach-E

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    Ford's EVs had a good 2024 in terms of sales although the pair are still losing $s per vehicle sold.​

    And onto the EV sales finish...

    Top 10 2024 US EV Model Sales
    1. Tesla Model Y - 372,613 vehicles sold during 2024, down 6.6% below the 398,782 sold in all of 2023
    2. Tesla Model 3 - 189,903 vehicles sold during 2024, down 17.4% below the 230,015 sold in all of 2023
    3. Ford Mustang Mach-E - 51,745 vehicles sold during 2024, up 26.9% over the 40,771 sold in all of 2023
    4. Hyundai Ioniq5 - 44,400 vehicles sold during 2024, up 30.9% over the 33,918 sold in all of 2023
    5. Tesla Cybertruck - 38,965 vehicles sold during 2024 vs 0 sold in 2023
    6. Ford F-150 Lightning - 33,510 vehicles sold during 2024, up 38.7% over the 24,165 sold in all of 2023
    7. Honda Prologue - 33,017 vehicles sold during 2024 vs 0 sold in 2023
    8. Chevrolet Equinox - 28,874 vehicles sold during 2024, up 6163% over the 461 sold in all of 2023
    9. Cadillac Lyriq - 28,402 vehicles sold during 2024, up 210.3% above the 9,154 sold in 2023
    10. Rivian R1S - 26,934 vehicles sold during 2024, up 23.4% over the 21,831 sold in all of 2023
    2025 Tesla Model Y

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    A new year and finally a refreshed design may help slow the sales slide?​

    Through all of 2024, Stellantis took the largest hit with not just the sales decline but in lockstep, the market share falloff of 1.6% shows how poorly it performed last year.

    Mazda's 0.4% and GMs 0.3% increase were well deserved.

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    With 20 years’ worth of US Automotive sales data to rely upon, 2024's US Automotive Sales of 15.92 million units increased by 2.5% over the 15.53 million sold in 2023. That total was the highest achieved since Covid decimated the global economy back in 2020. The 2024 US sales totals were unfortunately nowhere near the 17 million plus unit peaks in 2005 and 2015 - 2019. Estimates to reach 16.5 million in 2024 are to me a bit optimistic as Government downsizing – Government employment disappearing, is going to be a noticeable drag on consumer spending and the second largest purchase decision most make is not going to be immune.

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    Wayne
     
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Throughout January, the most spoken of brand continued to lose ground as CEO Elon Musk joined forces with the new Republican Trump Administration to slash and burn all Government spending in favor of holding onto tax cuts for the wealthiest individuals.

    US -- In January, Tesla sales were off 24% despite all new electric vehicle sales volume reaching 102,243 units, up 29.9% year over year. January marked the tenth consecutive month with over 100,000 units sold. Following a record month in December, when U.S. EV sales reached the highest level ever, a month-over-month sales decline was expected. The top five selling models, ranked by sales volume, were the Tesla Model Y, Model 3, Volkswagen ID.4, Tesla Cybertruck, and Honda Prologue, together making up 54% of total EV sales for the month. Volkswagen ID.4 had a comeback month, with sales up 653% to reach 4,979 units.

    EU -- In January, EV sales were up 37.3% but Tesla sales fell 45.2% in the EU. Overall sales of all drivetrain types were down 2.6% across Europe in January.

    While the Tesla sales declines are mostly related to Musk's political and personal activity, I find the exterior build quality appalling and wonder how the cars left the factory in the condition I see them on the road each and every day?

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    Just a random sample of Tesla's build quality from vehicles I have parked next to over the past month.​

    Wayne
     
  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Tesla's Declining Global Market Share Slide Continues

    During Tesla's Q3, 2024 shareholder meeting, Elon Musk indicated that Tesla sales could grow 20 to 30% in 2025 which would have correlated to deliveries between 2.15 million and 2.33 million, but his recent political activities have called into question those eye-popping prognostications and creating a marketing mess for the 22 year old EV company.

    In February, Tesla sales volume declines accelerated in both Europe and China.

    Tesla new car sales in Germany fell by 76% in February with just 1,429 new vehicles delivered compared to more than 6,000 in February 2024. Germany is by far Europe's largest EV market which adds even more concern. The blame sits clearly on Musk who backed Germany's far-right AfD party in the country's most recent elections. Adding to the German sales collapse, Tesla sales were down 24% in the Netherlands, 42% in Sweden, 48% in both Norway and Denmark, 45% in France, 55% in Italy, 10% in Spain and 53% in Portugal. The UK was the only positive with February sales up 14%.

    In Australia, Tesla sold 1,592 vehicles in February of 2025, down 71.9% below the 5,665 sold in February of 2024.

    In China, Tesla delivered 30,688 Shanghai-made Model 3 and Model Y EVs to buyers in February, down 49.2 percent from February of 2024. This compares to the 720,000 EVs purchased by Chinese consumers in February, down just 3%.

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    Wayne
     
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    This has not been a very good month for the world's most wealthy man...


    Along with one of his Falcon 9 Space-X rockets experiencing "a rapid unscheduled disassembly", aka, it exploded, for the second time in a row, and calling an AZ Senator a traitor for visiting Ukraine, there is something else overhanging the billionaire's head.

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    Musk, really?​

    And what is that? Musk could be headed for a loan default on his twitter loans. According to the Washington Post, Musk used more than half of his more than 170 million Tesla shares as collateral to acquire loans, and planned to borrow more to buy Twitter. Musk acquired X for $44 billion in Oct. of 2022 with Reuter's reporting that he borrowed an additional $13 billion from several banks, including Morgan Stanley, Barclays, and Bank of America. They reported last month that just $1.3 billion remained on the banks’ balance sheets.

    In a 2024 SEC filing, Musk was listed as holding 238,441,261 shares of Tesla stock that were “pledged as collateral to secure certain personal indebtedness.” At the time, he held 715,022,706 shares in total, according to the filing, meaning that roughly one third of Musk’s shares were serving as collateral for his loans. If the stock price goes low enough - that share price has not been disclosed, Musk could be forced to sell his shares to cover those loans that would be in default. Imagine the financial hit on that while owing the US Government 23.8 percent on the gain (personal income tax rate of 20% for long-term capital gains plus a 3.8 percent tax to fund Medicare).

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    As of this afternoons close at $240.68, the stock has fallen 40.4% YTD.​

    Adding insult to injury, over the past two days, I have parked next to to two Tesla's and took the following pics. The body panel build quality just like those I posted above is absolutely third world. Why would anyone buy one of these?

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    Wayne
     
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  5. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Lots of people who aren't "car people" don't care about panel gaps, consistent fitment, and things like that. I get a lot of comments about how nice my Model 3 is and that I must love it. A lot of people seem to think that Teslas are the ultimate car. To me, it does some things really well, and others surprisingly badly.
     
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  6. BillLin

    BillLin electric everything with solar and geothermal

    I'm mostly like that. The presented pics above look like damage to my untrained eye.
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bill:

    I wish it was accident damage but to see it on every single Tesla I have walked around or seen in traffic ahead indicates it is the continuing poor build quality. I have only found one Tesla with proper HW fitment in the last year after looking at maybe 100 up close and hundreds on the road.

    Wayne
     
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  8. BillLin

    BillLin electric everything with solar and geothermal

    Ok Mr. Critical Eye. I mean that respectfully.
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    You cannot make this stuff up!


    An acquaintance of mine purchased a foundation series and lost the motors just over a week ago. Now we have a Tesla CT sales stop due to body panels falling off.

    The Q1 2025 sales US and Global sales reports are going to be very interesting reads indeed.

    Wayne
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Embedded is a very well done video on two different Advanced Driver Assistance Sytems (ADAS) philosophies that is also both interesting and quite entertaining.

    The Tesla std is now all visual whereas everyone else uses a combination of Radar, LiDAR, and Video in combination to create their semi-autonomous driving platforms.


    Wayne
     
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    And the hits just keep on coming...

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    Musk and Trump selling Tesla's last week on the White House grounds.​

    Edmunds released used car sales data showing Tesla trade-ins are on pace for a record in part due to Musk and his growing negative political views.

    Many Tesla owners want out and the fastest way to do just that is via trade in for something else, anything else. In detail, 2017 and newer Tesla cars accounted for 1.4% of all the vehicles traded in through March 15, up from 0.4% in March of last year. This is by far a high mark record in terms of number of used Tesla's being traded in.

    Automotive OEM beneficiaries of the Musk backlash include Ford, VW, Hyundai, Kia, and in particular, Lucid. How long this clown show will continue is anyone's guess but eventually Tesla's board will have to oust the outspoken CEO in order to recover from both the brands global volumes slide and the harm to the brand that has occurred over the past 3-months.

    All I can add is good luck with that.

    Wayne
     
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  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Real Effin' classy.
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Tesla's Musk really F'ed up by supporting the Far Right Nazi group in Germany last year prior to German elections and telling Denmark that they are for "Forever war in Ukraine" just after he secretly met with Putin in Moscow. Adding the chainsaw idiocy at C-Pac with the sunglasses reported to be covering up his dilated eyes from the Ketamine he takes just tarnished his image even more.


    Tim Walz beat up Musk and Tesla for there anti-democratic activity and Musk went on FOX to blast Walz with a whining rant. All the while his DOGE is firing tens to hundreds of thousands of Govt. employees who will feel the financial hit immediately unlike Mush, the wealthiest man in the world.


    And today was the day of action with over 200 Tesla centers being actively boycotted against around the globe. If there were ever a need to remove a loud mouthed jack ass from the reigns of a large company, this is it.


    From the Action Network website:

    On March 29, 2025, we are calling for a GLOBAL DAY OF ACTION to stop Musk! Join us!

    Elon Musk is destroying our democracy, and he's using the fortune he built at Tesla to do it. We are taking action at Tesla to stop Musk's illegal coup.

    ⚡Sell your Teslas, dump your stock, join the picket lines.

    ⚡ We're tanking Tesla's stock price to stop Musk.

    ⚡Stopping Musk will help save lives and protect our democracy.

    The stakes couldn’t be higher. No one is coming to save us. Not politicians, not the media, not the courts.

    Tesla Takedown is a peaceful protest movement. We oppose violence, vandalism and destruction of property. This protest is a lawful exercise of our First Amendment right to peaceful assembly.

    #TeslaTakedown #BoycottTesla

    Wayne
     
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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    04/02/2025 - Tesla released their Q1 2025 Global production and sales results today and it is not a good look but not as severe as expected.

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    The outdated 2025 Tesla Model 3 RWD LR can be leased for $382/month + $TTL and $1k down here in TN. As a cash purchase, $44,130 incl D&H + TTL.​

    During Q1 of 2025, Tesla’s global deliveries of 336,681 vehicles were down 12.95% from the 386,810 sold during Q1 of 2024. The sales volume declines are expected to continue as the Q2, Q3, and even Q4 rolls out due to the political backlash in North America and Europe thanks in part to the unforced errors Musk has generated since backing Pro-Trump policies prior to the US election and continuing through to today.

    After last night’s loss where a (R) judicial candidate lost an election to hold a WI Supreme Court Seat to a (D) judge Susan Crawford by a 55/45 vote split and over $81 million spent – the most expensive judicial election in American history, Musk is rumored to being shown the door by the Trump Administration.

    Tesla explained that the changeover of Model Y lines across all four of its factories in California and Texas, Europe, and China resulting in the loss of several weeks of production. The sales fall off is more than likely due to the political activities but that remains to be seen.

    I will be waiting for a KBB release on Tesla US sales but for comparison sakes, here is a synopsis of what the rest of the US OEMs sales looked like during Q1 of 2025.

    Top 15 US OEM Q1 2025 Sales Volumes
    1. GM – 693,363, up 16.7% over the 594,233 sold in Q1 of 2024
    2. Toyota – 570,269, up 0.9% over the 565,098 sold in Q1 of 2024
    3. Ford – 501,291, down 1.3% below the 508,083 sold in Q1 of 2024
    4. Stellantis – 293,225, down 11.8% below the 332,540 sold in Q1 of 2024
    5. Honda – 351,577, up 5.3% over the 333,824 sold in Q1 of 2024
    6. Nissan – 267,085, up 5.7% over the 252,735 sold in Q1 of 2024
    7. Hyundai – 203,554, up 10.1% over the 184,804 sold in Q1 of 2024
    8. Kia – 198,850, up 10.7% over the 179,621 sold in Q1 of 2024
    9. Subaru – 166,957, up 9.1% over the 152,996 sold in Q1 of 2024
    10. Tesla – 121,900 (estimated), down 13% below the 140,187 sold in Q1 of 2024
    11. Mazda - 110,316, up 10.2% over the 100,103 sold in Q1 of 2024
    12. BMW (incl Mini) – 94,591, up 4.1% over the 90,884 sold in Q1 of 2024
    13. Volkswagen – 87,915, up 7.1% over the 82,101 sold in Q1 of 2024
    14. Mercedes-Benz - 75,100, down 9.2% below the 82,700 sold in Q1 of 2024
    15. Audi - 42,710, down 5.7% below the 44,226 sold in Q1 of 2024
    Tesla's estimated Q1 2025 US sales decline if proven correct will be by far the worst results within the top 15 OEMs in the US.

    Wayne
     
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I still have not seen a resolution to the Four Tesla dealers that said they sold 8,653 Cars in 3 Days in Canada to claim tens of millions in Canadian government rebates just as the Canada's EV subsidy funds ran out in January. That comes to each dealer selling 80 Tesla's every hour for 3 days or 4 every 3 minutes. This is highly unlikely, and we can expect a reversal and ruling against Tesla in Canada when the facts are issued at some point later this year.

    The $43-million USD in Canadian rebates Tesla has claimed have been placed on hold until the investigation is complete.

    As pissed as Canadian's are about US and Musk antics over the past few months and then this very unlikely government rebate sales scheme being legal, I am not expecting a good result for the company from our neighbors to the north.

    04-02-2025 -- TSLA 1-Year Stock Price Chart

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    The "Devils Cross" (50-day falling below the 200-day) has not been achieved but shareholders should expect extreme volatility over the next few months nonetheless.​

    Today, TSLA closed at $282.76, up $14.30.

    Wayne
     
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  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Hurry, please. Even if they don't now, history says that anyone who works for the orange clown takes a mighty fall when he's
    done with them.
     
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  17. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A few more tidbits to post about earlier this week…

    2025 Tesla Cybertruck

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    The much maligned pickup loses the Range Extending Battery option and that is not the only problem.​

    I have read rumors that the CT could not be traded into Tesla Centers any longer and while just a rumor, I am seeing several outlets now verifying it. Sort of? Just over a year ago, Tesla claimed they had over a million pre-orders for the pickup, but since its release, sales have fallen far short of expectations. With all the CT inventory not moving, Tesla has apparently stopped taking trade-ins of this poorly designed dumpster fire.

    Adding, the $16,000, large toolbox-sized battery pack that takes up about one-third of the Cybertruck's bed was being offered to increase its 325-mile range vehicle to by as much as 115-miles. The 600 lb pack has been quietly removed from the company’s website.

    Wayne
     
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  18. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Ha ha !
     
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  19. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    KBB finally released the Q1 EV sales, and it was not all that great for Tesla...

    Tesla sold 128,100 vehicles in the US during the Q1 2025 period, down 8.6% below the 140,187 sold in Q1 of 2024.

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    US Sales volumes were respectable in Q1 of 2025.​

    The Q1 2025 US Sales breakout looks like this:
    • Cybertruck: 6,406 sold, up 128.5% over the 2,803 sold in Q1 of 2024
    • Model 3: 52,520 sold, up 70.3% over the 30,842 sold in Q1 of 2024
    • Model S: 1,280 sold, down 69.6% below the 4,206 sold in Q1 of 2024
    • Model X: 3,843 sold, down 31.5% below the 5,607 sold in Q1 of 2024
    • Model Y: 64,051 sold, down 33.8% below the 96,729 sold in Q1 of 2024
    Wayne
     
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