Kia US Q1 2024 Sales Down 2.5%

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] EVs are alive and well at the hard charging Korean OEM.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – Apr. 2, 2024

    2024 Kia Niro PHEV-33

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    Kia sold 179,621 vehicles during Q1 of 2024, down 2.5% below the 184,136 sold during Q1 of 2023.

    The brands halo EV6 experienced a significant gain with 4,059 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 19.7% over the 3,392 sold during the same period of 2023.

    The all-new 7-passenger EV-9 achieved sales of 4,007 vehicles in Q1 of 2024. The EV9 first became available to the US consumer in late November of 2023.

    Moving to the std. ICE lineup, the Forte and Sportage drove the Q1 sales, each delivering more than 30,000 vehicles in the first quarter.

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    While Niro sales fell, it is still my personal favorite given the larger cargo capacity of its CUV platform, affordable pricing, and world class HEV, PHEV and all-electric drivetrains. Here is some more detail on this fantastic offering.

    The 2024 Niro Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) is rated at 33 miles of all-electric range and 510 miles of total driving range while offering a best-in-class cargo room and an extensive list of standard features.

    The Niro PHEV comes in two trims, an EX ($34,390 + 1,375 D&H) and SX Touring ($40,140 + 1,375 D&H). Both are equipped with a 180 hp and 195 lb-ft. of torque 1.6L GDI and Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor.

    The standard across all trims Advanced Drive Assist Systems includes the following:
    • Blind Spot Warning w/Parallel Exit
    • Driver Attention Warning
    • Forward Collision Avoidance Assist
    • Highway Driving Assist
    • High Beam Assist
    • Lane Following Assist
    • Lane Departure Warning
    • Lane Keep Assist
    • Intelligent Speed Limit Assist
    • Navigation-Based Smart Cruise Control Curve
    • Parking Distance Warning
    • Rear Cross-Traffic Collision Avoidance Assist
    • Rear Occupant Alert and Safe Exit Assist
    2024 Kia Niro PHEV-33

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    A lot of space back there.​

    The standout outside of the PHEV with 33-miles of all-electric range from the included 11.1 kWh pack equipped drivetrain is its cargo volume. 19.4 cu.-ft. behind the second row with the rear seats up and 54.6 cu. ft. with the second row down.

    US Q1 2024 Top 10 US Auto OEM Sales Ranks
    1. GM - 594,233 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, down 1.5% below the 603,208 sold during Q1 of 2023
    2. Toyota - 565,098 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 20.3% over the 469,558 sold during Q1 of 2023
    3. Ford - 508,083 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 6.8% over the 475,906 sold during Q1 of 2023
    4. Stellantis - 332,540 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, down 9.7% below the 368,327 sold during Q1 of 2023
    5. Honda - 303,451 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 17.3% over the 284,507 sold during Q1 of 2023
    6. Nissan - 252,735 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 7.2% over the 235,818 sold during Q1 of 2023
    7. Hyundai - 184,804 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 0.2% over the 184,449 sold during Q1 of 2023
    8. Kia - 179,621 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, down 2.5% below the 184,136 sold during Q1 of 2023
    9. Subaru - 152,996 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 6.7% over the 143,379 sold during Q1 of 2023
    10. Tesla - 140,025 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, down 13.3% below the 161,630 sold during Q1 of 2023
    Q1 2024 Top 10 US Auto Model Sales Leaders
    1. Ford F-Series incl. LD and HD - 152,943 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, down 10.2% below the 170,377 sold in Q1 of 2023
    2. Chevrolet Silverado incl. LD and HD - 129,987 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 0.4% over the 126,992 sold in Q1 of 2023
    3. Toyota RAV4 - 124,822 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 47.4% over the 84,704 sold in Q1 of 2023
    4. Tesla Model Y - 96,729 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 1.4% above the 95,362 sold in Q1 of 2023
    5. Honda CR-V - 95,038 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 41.3% over the 67,241 sold in Q1 of 2023
    6. Nissan Rogue - 90,804 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 8.7% over the 76,499 sold in Q1 of 2023
    7. RAM P/U incl. LD and HD - 89,417 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, down 15.1% below the 105,350 sold in Q1 of 2023
    8. Toyota Camry - 78,337 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 18.6% over the 66,037 sold in Q1 of 2023
    9. GMC Sierra incl. LD and HD - 68,597 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 0.1% over the 67,198 sold in Q1 of 2023
    10. Honda Civic - 61,929 vehicles sold in Q1 of 2024, up 36.0% over the 45,458 sold in Q1 of 2023
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  2. nerfer

    nerfer Active Member

    I just got my Niro EX PHEV! Now on to the complicated matter of tracking efficiency with two different power inputs.
     
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  3. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Hope your KIA gives tremendous efficiency. My old 1988 Ford Festiva (KIA body, tiny Mazda engine) gave as high as 55+MPG while using 100% ethanol-free E0 & lasted 22 years.
     
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  4. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Have to start somewhere, so I typically use the FCD trip MPG to calculate the amount of gasoline consumed. I have trip measured from full battery to full battery, and I use the amount of electricity consumed to recharge at the end of the trip. That gives you the kWh number.

    The final MPGe is distance / (Gallons + eGallons), where eGallons = kWh / 33.7 . I hated that people often use the FCD readout as the actual efficiency, without considering the electricity component.

    I have this in an Android calculator app with programmability, so I just plug in the raw numbers.

    Have fun! I like your vehicle choice.

    Add: Here are a couple of examples from a Crosstrek Hybrid and a Prius Prime.

    32.2miles trip B
    52.8 MPG aFCD
    3.21 kWh in 1:11:28 (16A L2)
    45.7 MPGe

    51.8 miles 74.6 MPG trip B
    3.15 kWh in 1:05:25 (16A L2)
    65.7 MPGe
     
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    A compliance car. I'm jealous. A few years ago, I wanted a Hyundai Ioniq PHEV and the
    the closest car was 500 miles away in Pittsburgh.
    But I'm pretty happy with my Elantra Hybrid today.
    Even though I rarely drive it.
     
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  6. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    HKG confirmed they are going to start building HEV and PHEV models at the new plant opening in Savannah GA. Originally intended for EV production, they will be building what sells in volume, so along with the Ioniq line and the EV6, they will be building hybrid variants of popular models that are currently imported from Asia. Hopefully that will bring us more electrified options, like HEV or PHEV versions of the Ioniq/Elantra platform that includes Kona, Soul, and Seltos.
    When that plant gets fully up to speed, they'd be crazy not to distribute the output to all 50 states instead of only the 13 CARB states. Here's hopin'.
     
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  7. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Is it still a compliance car if sold near you?

    Aside from that, there are at least 500 new phev in a quick US search, 1250 EV and 2500 hybrids. Kia/Hyundai push of electrified drivetrain vehicles is impressive.

    Toyota is right up there as well, though RAV4 more than Prius.

    Totals via car app search.

    Toyota <17000
    Kia <13000
    Hyundai <20000
     
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  8. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I use the app called RubikCalc PRO. There's a free version as well.

    Here's the program. Cost per mile is hard coded (gasoline and electricity costs) and should be changed if interested in that measure.

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  9. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Well, yeah. But that's a good thing.

    Toyota mainly wants to sell loaded up, top of the line hybrids and PHEVs.
    I didn't really want to buy a Prius Prime for $40K.
    And that's what local dealers were asking in 23.
     
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  10. nerfer

    nerfer Active Member

    They are becoming more available here. I first looked 6 months ago, and there were no PHEV models available in the area. Then about 2 weeks ago I looked again, and there were several in the area, if you include the ones marked "coming soon". So I went to the dealer that had the color and trim I wanted, it was scheduled to come in the next week, and here we are.

    If you rarely drive it, I think a hybrid makes more sense. A PHEV costs more and uses more natural resources to be manufactured, etc. The important thing is not really the MPG you get, it's the GPM (gallons per month) you use.
     
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  11. nerfer

    nerfer Active Member

    That's all well and good, but I'm not sure how to get the kWh to two decimal points. I'm charging at home, maybe there's a screen that shows this (I'm still going thru the manuals). Right now I think the best I can do is record the beginning battery % charge, and the final % charge, take the difference and multiply by 11.1 kWh total available, and maybe that would be accurate. I could at least compare one trip to another, I'm not sure it would be correct enough to compare to other vehicles though.
     
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  12. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    That's a great adaptation, @nerfer. I use the percentage approach as well when recharging isn't going to happen right away.
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Kia America delivered highest first-half EV sales in company history. Kia also marked the second-best first-half total sales. The brand’s best-selling models through the first half of 2024 were the Sportage SUV and Forte sedan.

    In June, Kia sold 65,929 vehicles, down 6.4% from the 70,495 sold in June of 2023.

    2024 YTD, Kia sold 386,460 vehicles, down 2.0% from the 394,333 sold though the same period of 2023.

    Kia sold more than 5,000 all-electric vehicles for the third consecutive month and 29,392 total EVs through the first-half, resulting 112-percent growth year-over-year and indicating strong EV sales growth momentum for the company.

    Four Kia models – Carnival (+18-percent), Forte (+13-percent), Sportage (+11-percent) and Seltos (+1-percent) – set new first-half sales records.

    Wayne
     

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