Moved to Portugal, bought a Bayon

Discussion in 'Hyundai' started by The Fridge, Dec 28, 2023.

  1. The Fridge

    The Fridge Well-Known Member

    So, retirement has me making unexpected choices.
    Here I am in the center of Caldas da Rainha, loving the ability to do most daily errands on foot.

    The hectic settling-in bureacracy and need for a vehicle led me to make a less than fully researched choice. I figured, how bad can the MPG get for a 1 liter engine?

    ... Pretty bad. Lots of trips hitting 6.5 L/100Km (36.2MPG). Yesterday I tried to maximize economy on a 106Km highway trip and managed 5.9 (39.9) going and 5.8 (40.5) returning. That required slowing to 85 KPH on the uphills and getting to the 120 speed limit only for a small percentage of the time.

    On the plus side, it's a fun little car, made in Turkey. When I run it hard the 100 CV engine is very sporty, accelerates like a motorcyle in the first 3 gears. Tons of sweet electronics all for €23K.

    I guess the walking will have to make up for my car's less than stellar footprint. I'm averaging 14Km/day of driving, much less than my US mileage.
     
  2. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I started walking a lot too, after a major downturn in finances, the price of gas skyrocketed & moving to an apartment. Your 8.7Miles per day driving compares to my 3.9 MIles of walking. Drove the car 5 months without filling the tank & I only had to put 3.5 gallons in it. & like you, I used to drive a lot!
     
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  3. The Fridge

    The Fridge Well-Known Member

    Nice Litesong! I'm jealous of your walking mileage. Hopefully after we get past the health-related drives to Lisbon my driving miles will drop a good bit.
     
  4. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Reviewing this thread, I think you can gain better MPG with a few featherfooting methods. My much larger non-hybrid US Hyundai 1.8L Elantra can get your mentioned MPG & even higher. First, don't accelerate like a motorcycle. Second, set your cruise control slightly below your normal speed. Your highway speed is too high. I'm over in the "slow" lane driving 65MPH & slower, enjoying the views. Third, as you approach uphills, slowly accelerate over your normal speed. As the hill begins upward, match your speed so you are very slightly decelerating. Try your best(difficult) to have your speed on hilltop flat be slightly below your normal speed, letting your cruise control take over. When you are on the top of the hill, approaching a downhill slope, begin to slow below your normal speed BEFORE the descent. As you descend, best you can, let the hill give you extra speed. Fourth, as the descent levels out, get your speed above your normal speed. Fifth, on the flat after the hill, slowly ease back your speed, letting your sub-normal speed cruise control take over. They call this procedure "flattening out the hill". There are lots of MPG to be gained with this "flattening out the hill" technique. Small engines particularly love this technique & really sip fuel.
     
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I sometimes hit 65 MPH in the Fit , but only when the fcd reads >60MPG
     
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  6. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I go 65MPH on 70MPH freeways. I wouldn't mind driving slower, but I don't like the 80MPH passing cars in the inner lanes who would be 20+MPH faster than me.
     
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  7. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I drive 60 in the 70MPH Interstates. Let 'em go around me.
    Around here , the tollways are 60 PSL ; my target speed there is 55.
    Again, they are free to go around me.
     
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  8. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I've had close calls because fast moving drivers, sometimes are late moving into the passing lanes, missing me by inches. I really despise that, so I speed up a bit on crowded freeways. It dramatically lessens the number of near misses.
     
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  9. The Fridge

    The Fridge Well-Known Member

    I have been getting much better numbers since my last post. And yeah :) I only accelerate hard once in a while to soothe the beast within. The car has a nice instantaneous L/100k horizontal bar readout with the tank average displayed to the left and as a vertical bar inside the graph. This makes it easy to see when I'm in the "better than tank average" target zone. The cruise up/down is very conveniently located at my right thumb so I use it quite heavily to flatten the hills. I have gotten trips as good as 4.8 L/100k and tanks as good as 5.1. so, much better than initial results.
    Hypermiling in Portuguese traffic is exciting to say the least. They have no patience when I'm passing someone at only a few Km faster and ride my tail flashing their lights. Speeders can come up on one very quickly. It's common to be faced with the decision to get stuck behind a very slow truck or hit the gas hard to get around before the speeder who came from nowhere is climbing up my ass. Portuguese drivers can be quite aggressive, coming up very fast behind and changing lanes at the last instant. Once I have completed a pass, they expect me to make a hard swerve back into the slow lane.
    So, hypermiling requires concentrating on much more than simply how to carry momentum from a downhill onto the next hill.
     
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  10. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Sounds like some of our roads (and drivers).
    What's different here ( for me ) is that I never pass.
    I'm typically the slowest vehicle.
     
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  11. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Well....as stated in the past..... I did pass someone one time. :eek: After passing & looking in my rear-view mirror, I saw the person I passed had turned into their driveway. :p
     
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  12. The Fridge

    The Fridge Well-Known Member

    Here in Portugal it's not uncommon to find rattletrap farm trucks who can only do 40 MPH uphill. And then there's the big fat mercedes and beemers doing 90 and more. Given the cost of fuel at 1.75 euro per liter ($6.60/gal) I wonder how they can afford the fuel guzzled at those speeds. And the road tolls are also steep, the one hour trip to Lisbon is $6 each way. It wonderful to drive where the norm is to stay in the right lane except when passing. It's also amazing to see the courtesy given pedestrians crossing streets. The majority of pedestrians don't even look to see if the oncoming cars will stop as they enter the crosswalk.
    The economy here is very polarized. Within the towns and out in the countryside houses are very mixed, fancy gated places surrounded by run-down or even collapsed vacant houses. One of the nice things is that it feels extremely safe despite the obvious poverty. I have no concerns walking by myself at 2AM through any area of town. People are much friendlier than in the US even when I fumblingly fail to speak their language.
     
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  13. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I wonder how you wonder, how drivers can afford the fuel, considering the 90 & faster rich drivers have bought expensive Mercedes & BMWs. Now me & my Hyundais?...... I've taken up walking.
     

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