Toyota’s Next Gen 2025 Camry will Be Hybrid Only!

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] The LA Auto Show Preview is a general overview as we wait to hear about its efficiency improvements.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – Nov. 14, 2023

    2025 Toyota Camry

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    Building upon the already well received 8th gen Toyota Camry as the current bestselling sedan in the U.S., the all-new ninth generation promises more curb appeal, upgraded performance, and will only be available with possibly the best drivetrain in existence. That being the Camry’s 2.5L with the Hybrid drivetrain that has been upgraded with the all-new 5th gen Hybrid drivetrain.

    Designed and manufactured in the U.S., the new Camry current best-selling sedan in the U.S., with more power, better looks, the latest convenience features, improved handling and the very latest Toyota safety systems.

    Powering the Camry is Toyota’s 2.5L I4 mated to the all-new fifth-generation Toyota Hybrid System. Combining the engine’s power with two electric motors, this new HEV provides a standard 225 net HP on Front Wheel Drive (FWD) models and 232HP on Electronic On-Demand All-Wheel Drive (AWD) models. Toyota stated they also tuned the new HEV system to provide lower RPMs at lower speeds while increasing power from the traction battery to provide the oommpphh. The Toyota Camry will also adopt the “Beyond Zero” badge to signal Toyota’s commitment to reducing carbon emissions.

    For the first time ever on a Camry Hybrid, Toyota’s Electronic On-Demand All-Wheel Drive (AWD) system will be available on all grades. The AWD system’s capability comes from a dedicated rear electric drive motor generator that automatically supplies power to the rear wheels when needed.

    The 2025 Toyota Camry is expected to arrive at Toyota Dealerships in the Spring of 2024.

    2025 Toyota Camry Exterior

    The 9th gen Camry looks sleeker with a hammerhead front fascia. I am not a fan of the older Avalon like whale mouth front fascia but that is just me. All trims feature slim LED headlights, DRLs and taillamps.

    The SE and XSE trims feature racing-inspired functional aerodynamic air ducts, front-side canards and a rear diffuser. The rear also has an exposed dual-tip exhaust (<-- why????) as well as a rear lip spoiler. The XSE also includes a unique color matched front grille and black trunk garnish. 18” multi-spoke black alloys are standard on the SE and 19” black and smoke gray alloys are standard on the XSE.

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    2025 Toyota Camry Interior

    The SE arrives standard with SofTex-trimmed seats with white accents in either Boulder or Black while the XSE adds a standard leather-trimmed interior with “shooting blade” patterned perforations found on both the side door trim and seating surfaces. The XSE interior is available in two colors: Black with blue lined perforations or Cockpit Red. Both the SE and XSE grades come equipped with standard aluminum sport pedals and a leather-wrapped steering wheel with paddle shifters.

    The base LE features an embossed pattern within the woven fabric found on the interior trim and seat surfaces in Boulder or Black. The higher-end XLE grade is the first Toyota Camry to feature leather and Dinamica microfiber-trimmed seats offered in Light Gray or Black. A quilted pattern in this material can also be found on the front door panels and dashboard.

    Toyota changed the shape and density of the seat cushion and by increasing the cushion length. <-- How many decades have I been asking for this? ;) The headrest was also softened and moved rearward to enhance seat and ride comfort. That comfort can be extended on the XLE and XSE grades with available front heated and ventilated seats that can be adjusted to three levels. The higher trims will also have a quieter cabin thanks to the standard front-side acoustic laminated glass to help reduce wind noise and harshness.

    The all-new 9th gen Toyota Camry will include a standard smart-key with push-to-start button, and a dual-zone auto climate with rear air vents. The XLE offers an available driver’s memory seat and memory side view mirrors. It can be equipped with auto rain-sensing wipers. And for the first time on a Camry Hybrid, the XLE and XSE grades will have the option of adding a power tilt and a powered panoramic roof with a power-retractable sunshade.

    2025 Toyota Camry Drivetrain

    Under the hood, the Camry comes standard with the fifth-generation Toyota Hybrid System which was announced to provide a more controllable and engaging driving experience. The system uses lighter and more compact electric motors to produce more power and enhanced performance.

    The electronic On-Demand All-Wheel Drive (AWD) has been adapted to work seamlessly with the hybrid system. The electronically controlled AWD features precise on-demand front-rear torque distribution in accordance with driving conditions to support start-off acceleration, handling, fuel efficiency and stability when driving on slippery road surfaces such as snow.

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    The Camry also has a retuned suspension for enhanced responsiveness and agile handling which adds a sense of thrill when taking on those twisting and turning roads. The sport grades have a specific sport-tuned suspension with increased comfort, while still providing even greater stability, handling, and confidence behind the wheel.

    There was no mention of the LE’s or SE/SXE/Limited’s efficiency improvements if any?

    2025 Toyota Camry Infotainment

    For the 2025 model, a 7” digital gauge cluster comes standard on LE and SE models, and a standard 12.3” digital gauge cluster is found in the XLE and XSE grades. The XLE and XSE grades also come with an available 10” Heads Up Display (HUD). I have never found one that I would ever pay extra for but that is just me.

    The Toyota Audio Multimedia System includes a standard 8” central display or an available 12.3” screen. The system includes standard wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility, and pairs well with the standard Qi wireless charging pad. The Camry also offers a standard combination of USB-A and USB-C ports, with three in the front and two in the rear across all grades.

    Access to a wide range of enhanced connectivity features is also available. Toyota Audio Multimedia allows simultaneous dual Bluetooth phone connectivity. A Wi-Fi Connect trial/subscription offers 4G connectivity for up to five devices (30 day/3GB trial included). <-- Use your phones Wi-Fi Hotspot feature as it is far less expensive.

    With an active available Drive Connect trial or subscription, Camry drivers can also interact with the system through touch and voice activation. With Intelligent Assistant available through Drive Connect, simple phrases like “Hey Toyota” awakens the system for voice-activated commands to search for directions, find Points of Interest (POI), adjust audio controls, change the cabin temperatures and more. Over-the-Air (OTA) updates will also be available.

    Adding to the already robust offering of audio playback ability with HD Radio, USB data and a SiriusXM Platinum Plan 3-month trial subscription, Integrated Streaming is also available, providing the ability to link your separate Apple Music and Amazon Music subscriptions to the vehicle for onboard control. And for those who enjoy premium sounds during commutes, Camry offers a nine speaker JBL Premium Audio system upgrade.

    Additional connected services are available on the Camry as well. The up to 10-year Safety Connect trial includes an Emergency Assistance Button (SOS), 24/7 Enhanced Roadside Assistance, Automatic Collision Notification and Stolen Vehicle Locator. The up to 10-year Service Connect* trial provides drivers the capability of receiving Vehicle Health Reports, Maintenance Alerts and reminders.

    A Digital Key is available on XLE and XSE grades. With an active Remote Connect trial or subscription, drivers can use the Digital Key via the Toyota app and allow passive entry unlock on front doors and trunk or push start in-cabin using your smartphone as the key.

    2025 Toyota Camry Safety

    The Toyota Camry comes standard with Blind Spot Monitor and Rear Cross-Traffic Alert.

    For those looking for additional Driver Assistance features, the XLE and XSE grades come available with a Premium Plus Package which includes features such as:
    • Traffic Jam Assist
    • Front-Cross Traffic Alert
    • Lane Change Assist
    • Panoramic View Monitor
    • Front and Rear Parking Assist with Automatic Braking
    The Toyota Camry comes standard with Toyota Safety Sense 3.0 (TSS 3.0). The safety suite includes:
    • Pre-Collision System with Pedestrian Detection
    • Full-Speed Range Dynamic Radar Cruise Control
    • Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist
    • Lane Tracing Assist
    • Road Sign Assist
    • Automatic High Beams
    • Proactive Driving Assist
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    I am waiting for the EPA numbers as well as the passenger and cargo volumes. The exterior/interior looks more modern, the drivetrain will surely be best-in-class, and the safety additions matches most of the rest of the recently released Toyota’s. Meaning Safety awards are coming its way… And the pricing detail? Fingers crossed they did not hit the accelerator button regarding that aspect. ;)
     
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  2. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Hi Wayne ,
    Any idea when you can get your hands on one of these for testing ?
     
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  3. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    I was chuckling at all the e-morons posting online after the reveal of the new Camry, lamenting the loss of the V6 engine. These are people who drive pickup trucks or body on frame SUVs because they "need" a V8. They are never going to buy a Camry no matter what engine it has. They just think that all cars should have a large displacement 300hp - or better yet 400hp - engine option. Yes, you're absolutely right, e-morons - aunt Louise needs a 400hp Camry to drive down to the beach club to play Mahjong.
    People who do nothing but complain about new entries reaching the market are - from the automakers' perspective - worthless and meaningless, unless they buy new cars. These are the same people who "never buy new" because they don't want to pay the depreciation. There's nothing wrong with buying a CPO or otherwise pre-loved vehicle, but the automakers aren't worried at all about the wish lists of used car buyers because they're not coming into the showroom to sign the papers. That is what effectively killed the manual transmission. The "sorry - no manual, no sale" crowd never went to a dealer and signed for a new car with a stick. Not enough people buy = the automakers can't build a case for selling them at a profit.
    I salute Toyota for their bold choice to go all hybrid for the new model. As long as they can keep the MSRP under control, and they are willing to build enough to meet market demand, it will not be a disappointment. In the urban areas, most of the Camry traffic on the road is either Uber/Lyft or people who purchased the car as a commuter for its reliability. Most that I see on the road are already hybrids. The gas jobs sell only to the stragglers who didn't get to the dealer in time to snap up the last of the hybrids, and those who come in on the lease deal they saw on TV and refuse to be flipped out of the LE-gas and into the TCH.
     
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  4. Erdrick

    Erdrick Well-Known Member

    Frankly I feel a bit let down by this reveal.
    I say that as an owner of a 2019 Camry hybrid LE and 2023 Chevy Bolt.
    I - and likely many others - hoped to see a Prime entry for the Camry.
    Now I can see our future plans including a proper full EV that is roadtrip worthy when the time comes to replace our current Camry.
    I doubt it will be a Toyota but if they are able to produce a worthy EV with good range / charging (read: 300+ miles and competitive fast charging speeds) I’ll consider them.
     
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  5. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    They should have gone hybrid only with the last gen. I thought they did in some markets.
     
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The reveal vid has finally been posted. At 05:38 into the vid, the all-new 9th gen Camry is introduced...


    The second vid is the all-new 2025 Toyota Camry trim and feature breakout.


    Wayne
     
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  7. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Will that negatively affect people like me with arthritis or other problems in the neck area from surviving vehicle impacts?
    Yes, I also never liked how close some headrests were to the back of the head(The Dodge Caliber was a problem. The Hyundai Elantra, no problem.). But I knew its life-saving benefits & got used to the headrests.​
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    While there was nothing new released on the 25 Camry Hybrid out of the Chicago Auto Show, Toyota did have a prototype 25 Camry on the show floor. It was locked up and missing internal screwed on parts but it was there.

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    Regarding Toyota's main competitor, Honda, the all-new 11th gen Accord hybrid in 2023 is selling at a clip 270% higher than the current gen and aging Camry hybrid. This year over year sales result comparison is why Toyota needs the all-new 2025 Camry to sell well once released. In detail, 2023 US Sales of the Accord Hybrid reached 96,323 vehicles which was 2.71 times higher than the 35,445 Camry Hybrid's purchased in the US during all of 2023. That is a huge sales gap to be made up.

    The 11th gen Accord with the 4th generation Hybrid drivetrain provides 204 hp combined from its 2.0L I4 and 2 MGs. The two-motor hybrid drivetrain won a “Wards 10 Best Engines & Propulsion Systems” award just over 4-months ago. That says something as well despite my own experiences with it vs the Toyota Hybrid drivetrain(s) in back to back drives. Consider the following efficiency data points between the current gen 24 Camry Hybrid(s) vs the 24 Accord Hybrid(s):

    2024 Toyota Camry LE Hybrid - 51/53 mpgUS City/Highway
    2024 Toyota Camry SE/XLE/XSE Hybrid - 44/47 mpgUS City/Highway

    2024 Honda Accord EX Hybrid - 51/44 mpgUS City/Highway
    2024 Honda Accord Sport/Touring Hybrid - 46/41 mpgUS City/Highway

    The 2025 Toyota Camry Hybrid will provide significantly more power than the current Accord Hybrid with a combined 225 hp output vs the Accord Hybrid's 204 hp. Even the current 2024 Camry Hybrid offers up a combined 208 hp output and higher efficiency.

    Overall, Toyota's Camry US sales continues to lead the midsize sedan segment with Camry US Sales in 2023 reaching 290,649 vehicles vs the 295,201 sold in 2022, down 1.5%. Remember, the Camry is moving to an all-hybrid drivetrain offering and who knows how the US public will decide on that. The Accord's 2023 US Sales reached 197,947 vehicles vs the 154,612 sold in 2022, up 18.0%.

    2024 Honda Accord Hybrid

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    A very competitive, made in the US, hybrid model from Honda.​

    A bit OT but moving out into the compact SUV space, the Honda CR-V hybrid achieved the country's best-selling hybrid model status with 197,317 sold. This compares to the 168,505 RAV4 HEV and Prime PHEVs sold in the US during 2023. Another eye-opening figure.

    Wayne
     
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