Meet the All-New 2023 Dodge Hornet PHEV-30

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] 30-miles of AER plus a turbocharged 1.3L or 2.0L highlight its performance heritage.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – March 6, 2023

    Earlier today, Dodge revealed its full 90-second commercial for an all-new vehicle. “Swarming the Nation” takes viewers on a flight through city streets as word of the arrival of “engineered hornet”.

    Swarming the Nation

    The automotive industry is evolving rapidly with new technologies and innovations by the day. In line with this, Dodge is set to unveil its latest addition to its vehicle lineup - the 2023 Dodge Hornet PHEV. This highly anticipated automobile promises to offer an exceptional driving experience with its innovative features and sleek design.

    The 2023 Dodge Hornet PHEV will be a hybrid vehicle that combines the efficiency of an electric motor with the power of a 1.3 or 2.0L turbocharged gas engine. This means that the car will run on a combination of electric from the plug for most of its daily use and a combination of both its electric motor and gas engine for longer trips providing drivers with the best of both worlds - fuel economy and performance.

    In addition to the hybrid powertrain, the 2023 Dodge Hornet PHEV is expected to feature state-of-the-art technology and safety features, ensuring a comfortable and secure driving experience for all. With its advanced infotainment system, drivers will have access to a range of features, including BT calls and music streaming, a high-end navigation, and a range of advance safety functions.

    Overall, the upcoming 2023 Dodge Hornet PHEV is a highly anticipated vehicle that promises to offer a unique and exciting driving experience. It could be an excellent choice for those who are looking for a car that is efficient, powerful, and technologically advanced. And if it starts at less than $30k, it could make quick inroads.

    The Dodge Hornet GT, fueled by a 268 hp and 295 lb.-ft. of torque turbocharged 2.0L I4, debuts as the segment’s most powerful gas engine making it the quickest, fastest, and most powerful utility vehicle with a starting price under $30,000!

    The Dodge Hornet R/T performance hybrid with its 288 hp and 383 lb.-ft. of torque turbocharged, all-aluminum 1.3L I4 can reach 60 in just 5.6 seconds, making the Hornet R/T the quickest and most powerful utility vehicle in the segment while still offering more than 30 miles of all-electric range via a 15.5 kWh Li-Ion battery.

    Similar to the Hyundai HEV/PHEV system, the Hornet uses a starter generator via engine belt. A high-power inverter and 7.4 kW charging module allow for a full battery charge to be reached in approximately 2.5 hours using a Level 2 charger. The R/T system is paired with a 6-speed AT.

    Both powertrains feature standard AWD. The Hornet R/T AWD system adjusts power automatically between the 1.3L engine that powers the front axle and the electric motor that drives the rear wheels.

    The Hornet R/T arrives with standard AWD and dynamic torque vectoring, plus available Brembo brakes and dual stage suspension.


    2023 Dodge Hornet Infotainment

    The Dodge Hornet includes a standard 12.3” digital cockpit cluster screen and standard 10.25” Uconnect 5 infotainment central display.

    The 12.3-inch digital cockpit cluster displays three separate information zones, allowing the driver to select within each area to customize the crisp, clear display graphics. Options include an “Evolved” theme that crops gauge displays to maximize the center display area. Drivers can customize the screen to display performance Sport Mode gauges or select from one of three hybrid drive mode displays for the Hornet R/T.

    The Uconnect 5 infotainment system is Android-based for ease of use. Favorite home screen layouts, music preferences, HVAC controls, seat positions and more can be customized and linked to individual profiles. The system can be connected to two phones simultaneously, and Wireless Android and Apple CarPlay allow easy, cord-free connectivity.

    Additional comfort, safety and technology features include a Harman-Kardon premium sound system, standard on the GT Plus and R/T Plus, equipped with 14 speakers powered by 465 watts of total system output. Wireless charging is also standard on the GT and R/T plus. Optional comfort features for Hornet include a heated steering wheel, heated seats, handsfree power liftgate and many more.

    2023 Dodge Hornet Safety

    The Hornet includes the very latest advanced safety features that are new for the Dodge brand. Standard Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems (ADAS) and safety features for the Hornet include:
    • Automatic Emergency Braking
    • Lane Support System
    • Blind Spot Detection with Rear Cross Path alerts
    The Hornet also offers three levels of parking assistance with acoustic and visual warnings displayed on the 10.25” main screen. Standard features include four rear parking sensors along with a high-definition back-up camera with guidelines, with additional available parking assistance on the Tech Pack.

    Level 2 autonomous driving, with new ADAS features that take safety and comfort to the next level, are optional with the Tech Pack, and include:
    • Intelligent Speed Assist w/Traffic Sign Recognition
    • Driver Attention
    • Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control (IACC)
    • Lateral Control/Lane Support system
    These should be standard given the competition as the Tech Pack without Parallel & Perp Park Assist is priced at a rather steep $2,245 for the base GT model. It does include the Active Driving Assist System. the Drowsy Driver Detection system, the Intelligent Speed Assist (ISA) system, the ParkSense Front and Rear Park-Assist with Stop and Surround-View Camera for that upcharge.

    The 2023 Dodge Hornet Build and Price Configurator is now live on for the Hornet GT, the quickest, fastest, and most powerful utility vehicle with a starting MSRP of just over $30,000 (excluding destination charge).

    The all-new Dodge Hornet will be built at the Stellantis plant in Pomigliano d’Arco, Naples, Italy.


    Following the Dodge brands heritage, the all-new Hornet is going to be a quick and capable PHEV for sure.
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  2. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I thought that was a typo, but no, that's on Dodge's website too. :D I've never heard anyone abbreviate (I'm guessing) the word perpendicular before.
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  3. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Wayne posted:
    The all-new Dodge Hornet will be built at the Stellantis plant in Pomigliano d’Arco, Naples, Italy.
    Litesong posted:
    It is so good, that Made in America cars are returning inside the borders of the US. Sorry, to correct you, Wayne, that Naples, Italy is in the US………………it’s NOT? Well, my geography has really gotten bad. :rolleyes:o_O
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  4. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    The high cost of performance... For a very small vehicle, its efficiency is down close to what I'd expect for a Ford F-150 Lightning.
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Bill:

    With Dodge not reporting its EPA, I suspect it is going to be bad. :(

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  6. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Then again, that's how it is with Jeep PHEVs as well, so not a huge change.

    The Jeeps are selling well, so I expect it'll be the same for the Dodge.
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  7. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    It is a different hybrid system than what Jeep is using. A through the road one vs a parallel. The hybrid efficiency is going to come down to the engine details. Though it does have the eTorque mild system that many Stellantis cars are getting.

    The Wrangler does poorly because it is the same engine as the ICE model, but now has to haul more weight. I'm guessing that is pushing the engine into a less efficient operation point. The gen1 Outlander PHEV did poorly for the same reason. It eventually got an Atkinson engine.
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  8. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Right, sorry, I was only thinking of the EV part of the PHEV, else the Lightning comparison wouldn't make any sense. Other PHEVs (other than Jeeps for instance) would get more EV only miles out of that sized battery, less than 2 miles per kWh from a glance.
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  9. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Where's the RPO box to tick to get a 426 hemi? Here's a car that is a hybrid in that it uses electric motors to get out of the pits.
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  10. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Just what we need! The Hornet has the torque of BOTH our Elantras…… plus about an extra third of the torque that our Hyundai Accent has. & that Hornet is the dainty lit’l one from the Dodge Boys.
    The Dodge Hornet R/T performance hybrid with its 288 hp and 383 lb.-ft. of torque turbocharged, all-aluminum 1.3L I4…….
    Oh, yeah…..the performance hybrid has almost 300 lb.-ft of torque MORE than any of my 1.3 liter engines ever had. Of course, 383 lb-ft of torque coming out of the 1.3 liter Hornet engine is the best way to get to 300,000 miles.​
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2023
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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    yeah , but think of the green cred !
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  12. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    I checked this morning and I see the Hornet EPA numbers appear on the DOE spreadsheet - for the one version initially offered:

    2023 FCA US LLC Dodge Hornet AWD CRX 569 2.0 4 Auto(A9) 21 29 24 26.6 40.9939 31.5916

    Seems like the 2 liter Hurricane with a blender, bolted up to the woof-woof (two dog clutches inside) ZF 9 speed transaxle.

    So the window sticker will read 21/29 and 24 combined. That's 1 or 2 away from the EPA number for the Honda Odyssey minivan (19/28) and about the same as the Kia Stinger AWD and Jeep Cherokee 4x4.
    Here's hoping people don't order one thinking the initial version is the fuel sipper, only to end up with something that scoots up to speed quickly but drinks like a two ton minivan.
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  13. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Seems like a perfect use for motors in a race car. Save the higher gears for racing while limiting pit speed violations.
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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Chris:

    Thanks for sleuthing out those Hornet PHEV EPA details.

    In other words, off the plug, this is a huge fuel sucking pig.

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  15. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Another failure for Stellantis.
    DOA right out of the gate.
    This thing will sell in the 10's.
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  16. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    21mpg in town, per EPA, and a 13.5 gallon fuel tank means 250 miles between fuel stops, assuming you don't run it completely dry. Based on the psychology of people thinking a car uses "a lot of gas" because they have to keep stopping to fill the tank, I think there is going to be a lot of internet griping about "how much gas it uses".
    I remember in the 70s, AMC gave their small cars big gas tanks - 20 to 22 gallons. People would think the cars got good mileage because they didn't have to stop and fill them up so often. In the early 00s, Saturn's midsize "L" series - a reworked Opel Vectra - could be had with the Beast of Ellesmere - 3.0 V6 with oddball 56 degree architecture - borrowed from the full size Opel Omega (Cadillac Catera in the US). Nice idea for the power-hungry US driver, but they kept the little 13 gallon tank from the European Vectra that sold with little Chevette motors and mostly stick shift. Saturn had their hands full with complaints about bad gas mileage because people were filling them twice a week, with the 18/24 EPA and small tank. Time will tell if the Hornet generates the same displeasure, thanks to it's US-approved high HP engine and modest Euro-size fuel tank.
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  17. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    24 mpg combined is one worse than the first Outlander PHEV with the non-Atkinson engine. The 1.3L might do a bit better than the current Outlander.

    The Hornet is up on the Dodge site.
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  18. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Stellantis customers : don't know , and don't care.
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  19. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    For those that remember the Dodge Omni GLH and GLHS.
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  20. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I do remember them.
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