2022 Budget TV Choices for Black Friday

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Since I am in the process of procuring a budget TV or multiple budget TVs for our Nashville home, I thought you may find the following tables useful for your own Black Friday TV hunt. I will add the Power Consumption "Energy Guide" details for each as I find them.

    Hisense U6H

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    I am leaning towards the 65 or 75" U6H given the higher quality panels, high ratings, and bargain pricing.​

    All ratings are based on the "Mixed Usage" result as found at RTINGS.com

    The Energy Guide is the yellow sticker you will find on the front of all new TVs sold in the U.S.

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    It is based on $0.12/KWh (probably a little low for most nowadays) and 5-hours of use per day
    Estimated yearly electricity use for this model: xxx KWh

    Prices as seen on Oct. 4, 2022

    2019 - TCL 75" 75S446 (6.7 Rating) - $649.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $32
    2019 - TCL 75" 75S455 (7.0 Rating) - $629.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $27
    2021 - TCL 75" 75S546 (7.7 Rating) - $799.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $48
    2022 - TCL 75" 75S555 (??? Rating) - $799.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $43
    2021 - TCL 75" 75S45 (7.0 Rating) - $549.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $27

    Prices as seen on Nov. 4, 2022

    2021 - TCL 55" 55S41 (??? Rating)- $188.00 at Walmart (Nov. 7th BF only - maybe?) - Energy Guide: $14

    2022 - Hisense 75" U75H (8.0 Rating) - $929.99 at Costco - Energy Guide: $50
    2022 - Hisense 65" U75H (8.0 Rating) - $679.99 at Costco - Energy Guide: $33
    2022 - Hisense 65" U7H_ (8.0 Rating) - $699.99 at Best Buy and Amazon - Energy Guide: $33
    2022 - Hisense 55" U75H (8.0 Rating) - $479.99 at Costco - Energy Guide: $25

    2022 - Hisense 75" U6H (7.9 Rating) - $699.00 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $37
    2022 - Hisense 65" U6H (7.9 Rating) - $499.99 at Best Buy and Amazon - Energy Guide: $32
    2022 - Hisense 55" U6H (7.9 Rating) - $369.99 at Best Buy and Amazon - Energy Guide: $25

    2021 - Hisense 75" U6G (8.0 Rating) - $699.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $45
    2021 - Hisense 65" U6G (8.0 Rating) - $384.99 Clearance at Best Buy (Not available) - Energy Guide: $36

    2021 - Insignia 75" F30 (??? Rating) - $549.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $53
    2021 - Insignia 70" F30 (??? Rating) - $449.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $39
    2022 - Insignia 65" F50 (6.9 Rating) - $449.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $39
    2021 - Insignia 65" F30 (??? Rating) - $379.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $32

    2021 - Hisense 75" R6030G (6.9 Rating maybe?) - $448.00 at Walmart (Nov. 7th BF only - maybe?) - Energy Guide: TBA

    2021 - Hisense 65" R6G (6.9 Rating) - $409.99 at Best Buy and Amazon - Energy Guide: $34
    2021 - Hisense 55" R6G (6.9 Rating) - $309.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $23

    2022 - Hisense 75" A6H (6.6 Rating) - $609.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $46
    2022 - Hisense 70" A6H (6.6 Rating) - $529.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $38
    2022 - Hisense 65" A6H (6.6 Rating) - $419.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $28
    2022 - Hisense 65" A6H (6.6 Rating) - $399.99 at Costco - Energy Guide: $28
    2022 - Hisense 55" A6H (6.6 Rating) - $319.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $21
    2022 - Hisense 55" A6H (6.6 Rating) - $299.99 at Costco - Energy Guide: $21

    2021 - Hisense 75" A6G (6.5 Rating) - $461.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $46
    2021 - Hisense 70" A6G (6.5 Rating) - $479.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $38
    2021 - Hisense 65" A6G (6.5 Rating) - $359.99 at Best Buy - Energy Guide: $27

    The bolded models above are my current picks for best all around values.
     
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  2. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Thank you for the TV particulars. However, the largest TV we can find a place for, is limited to about 50 inches & then, only if it is one of them curved ones. Your listed 55 inch TLC is tempting for $188 & Energy of $14! But my wife says TLC’s are too complicated. We both don’t like WalMart. Within the last year, we did get a 32 inch for $100(not at WalMart). We’ll see if it lasts very long.
     
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  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Litesong:

    If you can get by with a 50" or smaller unit, the prices are darn near giveaway and the power consumption barely registers on your monthly bill!

    Good job.

    Wayne
     
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    About Walmart BFs deal... Walmart pulled a real jerk move late last month when they were offering a 58" Hisense for $198 ($298 regular price) for "Walmart +" members starting at Noon EST, the rest of us beginning at 03:00 PM EST, and running until 07:00 PM EST. The Walmart + membership is a ridiculously overpriced $95/year with half price and 30-day free trials showing up now.

    In any case, the second that deal went live, inventory in every store in the entire country went to 0. At 07:00 PM, inventory magically reappeared at most every store in the country. That night, I drove to 4 Walmart's including Springhill, Franklin, Brentwood, and Nashville TN and all had 3 or more sets, but none would price match to the deal offered just hours earlier. A real D**K move by Walmart for sure.

    I am just providing a heads up that this same scam could occur for the $148 TCL 55" or the $448 Hisense 75" deals this coming Tuesday. Unless you pick up a trial membership for Free, picking up at 07:00 PM that night is going to be tough.

    Wayne
     
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A Roku TV is probably the easiest to use out of the box while an Android or Google TV is the most configurable. With Roku going through a tough time in terms of business operations - losses continue to expand, Roku could be out of business within a year or two. A stock that loses 90% of its value in just a year is one that may no longer be viable in short order. If so, there will be no more updates and you could screw yourself going forward.

    The answer to this is to consider an Android or Google TV and simply use a $24.98 Roku 4K stick and Roku Remote for the time being. If Roku disappears in a few years, unplug and you have your Google or Android TV back. ;)

    Walmart BF 2022 - Roku 4K Stick Sale

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    Roku Stock 5-year Stock Price Action

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    Consider the double top and the massive decline of 90%, almost all the way back to its IPO price!​

    Wayne
     
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    One other item... Between Sept. 1st and Oct. 31st, Hisense was running a 100-day Guarantee promo and providing a $100 Gift Card for most 65" and larger sets. Best Buy was on the list and the highly rated 65" or 75" U65H cost just $399 and $599 respectively after the gift card was included. The 65" U6H with a 7.9 rating and an Energy Guide cost of $32 for just $399 is a steal in no uncertain terms. That deal is over which makes me think Hisense prices may fall by another $50 to $100 before BF actually arrives? Maybe Christmas? The Superbowl is one of the biggest events for U.S. TV sales if you can wait that long, the deal should be even better.

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    I did not consider any of the upper mid-range to high end units including the highly rated OLED Samsung S95B (8.6 on Rtings) and LG C2 (9.0 on Rtings). The prices for these units are just not fathomable for most with the global economy outside of the U.S. in recession and that the strong dollar should have seen any imports prices fall in lock step. It is too bad as not only are they really light, the OLED LG C2 (65" for $1699) has an excellent Energy Guide rating of $26! The OLED Samsung S95B (65" for $1699) is even better with an Energy Guide rating of just $20!!!

    Wayne
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I purchased the 55" TCL 5S41 ($205 with tax and free shipping) and the 75" Hisense R6 ($452 with tax and free shipping) on Nov. 7th. Those deals are still on the Walmart Electronics home page now.

    The 55" arrived this morning and within 20-minutes, all the streaming apps were setup on the Roku OS. Best news of all, it not only looks good, the Energy Guide of $12 is a true energy saver vs. what is coming.

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    While I cannot add anything regarding the long term reliability of this TCL, out of the box, the Pic quality is decent, brightness is decent, and the Roku front end makes everything a breeze. For $188 + tax, it makes for a great Christmas gift too.

    Wayne
     
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  8. litesong

    litesong litesong

    While I cannot add anything regarding the long term reliability of this TCL…. the Pic quality, brightness are decent…..$188 + tax……
    Wayne
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    Had our $100 32inch TCL for 9 whole months. Same attributes that you state. Figured if it lasted for 3years, $100 would be well spent. Can the TCL feet be moved closer? We just have a narrow spot that needs a single foot or very narrow feet. Our narrow spot wouldn’t even take our 32 inch TV feet. Really would like a true 120Hz refresh rate, not the fake 120 motion, but that is too expensive. Plus, 55 inches is just too big for us. Continue telling of the TCL’s longevity. :)

    Really tho. I don’t want to get into escalating prices for too many chinese products. :(
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Just to update. The Walmart 75" Hisense was canceled as they could not find someone to deliver that monster. Marian and I were at our local Walmart and saw a number in their storage area - formally the indoor Garden Center. I was not willing to rent a truck to pick it up so maybe I will be waiting for another 65 or 75" for the living room as we close in on not just Black Friday but maybe even Christmas. The Hisense UH6 at BestBuy is still $699 and that is a little rich in my book for a basic feature set with a mid-level but modern display.

    And the $188 55" TCL? Marian likes it. ;)

    Wayne
     
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    In case anyone is interested, the following price reductions at Best Buy and price increases at Costco and Best Buy that have occurred over the past few days.
    Wayne
     
  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Yet another update. You would think these prices would either stabilize or drop as we head into actual Black Friday. At least all of those Costco TVs fell back to what they were offering two weeks ago. Which is not a real decline, just manipulation in my book.

    2019 - TCL 75" 75S446 (6.7 Rating) - Energy Guide: $32 is now $629.99 vs the $649.99 that it was priced at Best Buy last week.

    2021 - TCL 75" 75S45 (7.0 Rating) - Energy Guide: $27 is now $529.99 vs the $599.99 that it was priced at Best Buy last week and $549.99 that it was priced at two weeks ago.

    2021 - TCL 75" 75S546 (7.7 Rating) - Energy Guide: $48 is now $899.99 vs the $799.99 that it was priced at Best Buy last week.

    2022 - Hisense 75" A6H (6.6 Rating) - Energy Guide: $46 is now $499.99 vs the $609.99 that it was priced at Best Buy last week. <-- This is the Hot Deal of the day right now.

    2022 - Hisense 75" U75H (8.0 Rating) - Energy Guide: $50 is again at $929, down from the $1,079.99 at Costco last week vs the $929.99 that it was priced at two weeks ago.

    2022 - Hisense 65" U75H (8.0 Rating) - Energy Guide: $33 is again at $679.99, down from the $779.99 at Costco last week vs the $679.99 that it was priced at two weeks ago.

    2022 - Hisense 55" U75H (8.0 Rating) - Energy Guide: $25 is again at $479.99, down from the $579.99 at Costco last week vs the $479.99 that it was priced at two weeks ago.

    Wayne
     
  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I do not know if this will help anyone here but Costco has a hell of a deal on the LG 86" Class - UQ8000 Series - 4K UHD LED LCD TV with a 3-year Allstate Protection Plan Bundle for 5 years of total coverage. If you purchase (2) of the 86's, the total price before tax comes to $1,699.98. My oldest son lives about 3 blocks from me here in Nashville so we ordered two, one for him and one for myself to get the deal. The 55" TCL 4-Series for $188 from a Black Friday deal is still going strong and this one appears to be a pretty darn good deal in its own right as well.

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    The 86" UQ8000 includes LGs fastest chip, the α7 Gen 5 AI Processor, 120 Hz Refresh Rate, Variable Refresh Rate, AI Sound Pro, Magic Remote with NFC and a $75 Streaming Service Credit. It uses a lower quality IPS panel so it is not the deeper black and higher contrast VA panel but it looks pretty good in person. It will be delivered tomorrow and I still have not ordered a wall mount for it.

    The Energy Guide is showing a decent annual cost of $37/year which for an 86" LEV TV is actually pretty good.

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    Wayne
     
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  13. litesong

    litesong litesong

    The 32 inch TCL is at 15 months. Still looks remarkable & been on a lot! Tho the TCL only has 60Hz re-fresh rate, I enjoy our Seattle Mariners baseball games & am looking forward to the 2023 French Open tennis.
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    PS…..Oh, weather report: Heavy black clouds moving toward our neighborhood. My wife & the dog are somewhere having a walk. Looking toward the 20 mile distant mountains, I see rain. The weather report says, 90% of rain here in 10 minutes. Now I see rain one mile away. Over & out…..rained-out.
    PS I….My wife & dog got home before the rain……
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    PS II…..Wow! I just had to say, Mariner’s just had a miracle game….maybe a many miracles game! Ya ain’t goin’ ta belieb et.
    The Houston Astros were leading 3-0, after scoring in early innings. Mariners, of course, had nuthin’. & that’s where the score was as the Mariners came to bat in the bottom of the eighth inning. & the Mariners made two quick outs. Looked like they had fried the offense in the 8th inning. Then, the faucet opened up, as a Mariners batter got on with a walk. Raleigh, the catcher,with 2 strikes, tapped a seeing-eye squeaker, that the pitcher couldn’t quite get to his right & both the third baseman & shortstop interfered with each other. The next batter hit another seeing-eye ball that the shortstop fielded but was so out of position, he couldn’t get anyone out. Remember, all Houston needed was 1 out to get out of the inning. With the bases loaded, shortstop J.P. Crawford, who was breaking out of a weak hitting season beginning, nailed a 106MPH exiting double to the wall, that scored the game-tying 3 runs. A walk was issued to the next batter. A new kid, Jose Caballero, replacing the regular injured-earlier-in-the-game 2nd baseman, hit a 99MPH fast ball for a double, scoring 2 more runs. Julio Rodriguez, having early season sophomore jinx problems, hit a solid single, adding 1 more run. Ty France hit a bloop single to left field. Julio caught the left fielder sleeping & piled into 3rd base, ahead of the late throw. Jarred Kelenic, who had, 2 weeks before, hit 3 homers in 2 games, exiting at 110 & 111MPH, plastered a good single to the right fielder, to score the final & 7th run of the inning, all base runners & runs with just 1 out remaining! One remarkable note is that the Mariners pounded a pitcher that was throwing fastballs as high as 100MPH, & numerous fastballs at 98 & 99MPH. Just incredible. The Mariners finally held on to win 7-5 at the end of the game.
    All brought to me, by TCL.
     
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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    A little update on the LG 86" UQ 8000 TV with regards to its power consumption.

    Its power consumption looks like this:

    Watching full screen Hi-Def YouTube vids: 100W to 110W
    Black screen while listening to Music channels: 65W
    Standby: 0W

    105W for 5-hrs/day comes to .525 kWh/day
    365-days of 5-hrs/day comes to almost 192 kWh

    I am currently paying $0.144/kWh for my electricity all in so it would cost me ~ $27.65 to watch std. Hi-Def programming on the 86" for 5 hours per day every day for an entire year. I guess the energy guide is a little less optimistic but I will take it. I also will never watch an 86" TV for 5-hours per day for an entire year either. ;)

    Wayne
     
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  15. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Whoa! Our 32 inch drinks 50Watts of power! Even our old 24 inch Samsung drains 40Watts!
     
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    litesong litesong

    OK OK…..more baseball trivia. In the 1950’s Puget Sound residents (at least the kids) were entertained for years by the TV comedian J.P. Patches who was in classic clown make-up. Well, the Mariners have a player named J.P. Crawford. & 3 other ball players have the first name initials of J.P……..Arencibia, Feyereisen, & Howell.
     
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