Hertz and GM Are all in On EVs

Discussion in 'In the News' started by xcel, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] Hertz plans to order up to 175,000 EVs from GM over the next five years!

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – Sept. 20, 2022

    2023 Chevrolet Bolt EUV

    A $6,300 reduction in MSRP but is the average renter ready to pay $300 to $400/week to rent a compact after the economy has settled?​

    Hertz and GM announced a plan in which Hertz will order up to 175,000 GM EVs over the next five years. The purchase will be the largest expansion of EVs among fleet customers in history.

    The agreement will encompass EV deliveries through 2027 as Hertz increases the EV component of its fleet and GM accelerates production of EVs broadly. Over this period, Hertz estimates that its customers could travel more than 8 billion miles in these EVs, saving approximately 3.5 million metric tons of CO2 compared to similar gasoline-powered vehicles traveling such a distance.

    Hertz is investing to create the largest rental fleet of EVs in North America, with tens of thousands of EVs available for rent at 500 Hertz locations across 38 states. The company’s current goal is for one-quarter of its fleet to be electric by the end of 2024.

    Hertz expects to begin taking delivery of Chevrolet Bolt EVs and Bolt EUVs in the first quarter of next year. GM deliveries to Hertz are projected to increase as GM rapidly scales its EV production between 2023 and 2025, driven by the opening of Ultium Cells battery cell plants in Ohio, Tennessee, and Michigan. GM plans annual production capacity of 1 million EVs in North America by 2025.

    2023 Chevrolet Bolt EUV Detail Infographic


    I drive by the new Ultium plant on I65 in Springhill, TN a few times a week and there is no denying this new facility’s expansion. The possible problem with Hertz’s purchase direction is profit. They are not purchasing the fuel, they are buying the vehicles, maintaining the vehicles, and selling the vehicles. The upfront pricing is going to be steep unless GM provides a huge fleet discount for that volume, and the rental company’s maintenance should be minimal. Upselling the EVs rental pricing to cover the huge upfront outlay and the large resale hit is not going to be a hit for Hertz’s bottom line when all is said and done. This will be interesting to see going forward from my perspective. Fingers crossed GM and Hertz can keep the upfront and rental costs down far enough to entice renters to go for it. ;)
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  2. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Will selling Chevy Bolts to Hertz, slow my ability to buy a Chevy Bolt? I think so. My personal circumstances also will slow my ability to buy a Chevy Bolt. But Gord proves that EVs can be charged for FREE, which will speed my ability to continually tour my state (maybe a few others & all dependent on good weather).
    Of course, my low-priced used & over-sized tires will also assist me to tour at my heart’s content. I’ve already discovered that 225x50x17 inch tires (got two FREE tires), can be mounted & driven on Chevy Bolts, which OE tires are 215x50x17 inch tires.
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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yes. Mine,too.
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  4. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Like EV makers everywhere, they develop programs to cater to rich people, while poorer populations continue without abilities to obtain EVs with low prices, which could give some poorer people abilities to break away from their poorness.
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  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Litesong:

    GM and the rest are not just catering to the wealthy, they are trying to earn a profit in every platform they have introduced them into while building a very expensive drivetrain. The major OEMs appear that they are not making $s on this as they are still in the ramp up phase. Only Tesla.

    Regarding Tesla, in Q2 of this year, they reported the highest automotive profit margin of any OEM at 25%. The $62,990 Dual Motor AWD Model 3 Performance is probably the std. sale and think of a 25% profit margin on it indicates this trim costs Tesla ~ $47,000 to build. This car is no larger than a Corolla albeit a lot faster and better equipped but it is the size of a Corolla. That is a lot of $s for a compact and that is the ~ cost to Tesla. In fact, that is far more than a 2022 Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV at a $40k MSRP to the consumer!

    2022 Tesla Model 3


    Packs, motors, and Inverters are still not cheap although GM continues to tout < $100/KWh for their Ultium packs. We shall see.

  6. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Automakers regularly ship the higher trims of a model first, and all the now standard features in a car were once luxury brand only.
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  7. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Or if there's an artificially prolonged supply chain issue , that's ALL they ship. At least for the cars
    I'm interested in.
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