2023 AWD Toyota Crown Hybrid First Look

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] The Avalon replacement looks sharp!

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – July 15, 2022


    Austin, TX -- The all-new Crown arrives as a 4" taller Camry with more headroom, slightly more ground clearance thanks to taller 19 and 21" rims and tires, and more rear seat leg room…

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    The Crown will include a choice of two different AWD hybrid powertrains: A 28 mpg rated 2.4L Turbo HYBRID MAX with a single clutch attached to a 6-speed AT or the Camry/Avalon/RAV4/RXh 2.5L Hybrid drivetrain with a new Bipolar NiMH pack with about the same output but at half the size. The Hybrid MAX is too inefficient but the 2.5L Hybrid at 38 mpg is just right. Anyone watching the vid notice the 0W-8 oil requirement? ;)

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    Toyota is not giving up on NiMH

    Toyota's hybridizations efforts have led to the development of bipolar NiMH batteries which compared to previous generations of batteries, are both more compact and generate higher outputs.

    In bipolar NiMH batteries, a cathode is applied to one side of the current collector, and an anode to the other; several of these structures are stacked together to form a battery.

    Compared to non-bipolar NiMH batteries, bipolar versions consist of fewer current collectors and other parts, enabling them to be made more compact. It is possible to stack a larger number of cells in bipolar NiMH batteries than in non-bipolar NiMH batteries of the same size.

    Since bipolar batteries have a greater active surface area and a simpler construction, there is lower resistance within the battery itself. This enables the flow of larger currents, leading to increased output.

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    Compared to the previous-generation NiMH battery, the all-new bipolar NiMH battery delivers 1.5-times greater output per cell, and packs 1.4-times more cells in the same-sized space leading to a total output increase of approximately two-fold.

    Three trims will be available including an XLE w/ Softex and fabric front seats, and acoustic glass all around.

    Ltd. adds multibeam LEDs, fixed pano roof, leather heated and ventilated seats, 11-speaker JBL audio, rain sensing wipers and intelligent clearance sonar along with rear cross-traffic braking.

    Platinum arrives with the MAX powertrain and would not be a personal consideration.

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    Seating should prove to be long drive comfortable for larger drivers.​

    Safety: All trims will include TSS 3.0

    A slick working vertical Qi charger is std. There is also a std. USB-Type A and 12V charging port inside the console. A separate dual USB-Type C terminal is std. on the passenger side. Two USB-Type C ports are std. in back.

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    By far the best wireless Qi charger solution I have ever experienced.​

    Infotainment: All Crown models feature Toyota’s all-new Audio Multimedia system with a 12.3" touchscreen, dual Bluetooth phone connectivity, and wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto that is Over-the-Air (OTA) updatable. In the 2023 Sequoia, it worked fantastic!

    Pricing and drive impressions will have to come later as this was a static reveal. The exterior has curb appeal while the interior looks and feels modern. There was enough rear seat room to fit three comfortably.

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    2+ inches of rear seat knee room with the driver seat setup for my 6’ frame up front.​

    That wraps up the intro of the all-new Crown which the US has not seen since the early 70s. This is not your father’s Crown for sure. ;)

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    The Avalon replacement looks better than the Avalon inside and out.​

    #Toyota #Crown
     
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  2. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    The back looks bit polarizing to me especially in the 2 color tone. But pity it's not a liftback since that would be needed to really make it more competitive against SUV models.
    New upcoming Accord (and Camry?) likely will have a hybrid model again which should get bit better mpg. The only benefit here might be that this is AWD.
     
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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    OW8 ? yeah , our local Autozone has it a great price. Not !
     
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  4. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Those rim protectors need to be thinner. Handling, you know.
     
  5. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Maybe it lasts for the life of the vehicle... ;)
     
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Luke:

    It looks sharp in person and it is a bit larger than the Camry but only in the margins. Given its proportions, I wish it was a hatch as well. And the efficiency? Well, it is good in the mid-size competitive universe but the Camry Hybrid is still king.

    2023 Toyota Crown Trunk

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    I am guessing maybe 16 to 17 cu ft.​

    Wayne
     
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  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Edwin:

    Yeah, I have trouble fining 0W-16 for my Prime now. Imagine searching for 0W-8! Oh, the dealer has it and an oil change will cost just $79.95. :(

    Wayne
     
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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Jay:

    The top-of-the-line Platinum and mid-trim Limited with the Advanced Tech pkg. arrives with those damn fuel robbing 21's. Here is the Limited with the 21s as well. :(

    2023 Toyota Crown

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    Tire and wheel detail.

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    The standout detail is the best working wireless Qi charger I have ever experienced. It is as easy to use as a cupholder. Since it was based on a cupholder design, whoever created it deserves a raise!

    Wayne
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The full intro from Toyota.


    Wayne
     
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  10. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Just as handsome as an Accord Crosstour. Remember that abomination ?

    But at least it has those bitchin' 24" wheels.

    I still like the Avalon Hybrid. It's more like a car.
     
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  11. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Move to Japan, and you can get a true sedan Crown, or hatchback, or SUVish wagon.

    I liked my parents Crosstour. You got a large hatchback without the fuel robbing squared rear.
     
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  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    While they LOOK great , their fuel efficiency was poor.
     
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  13. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    They are being released at a later date. Did Toyota already announce fuel efficiency numbers for them?

    The Crossover sedan coming to America has a larger frontal area with AWD. Which is why it it is rated lower than the Avalon hybrid. I bet its official numbers will be closer to the Rav4 though. A true sedan should be the same as the Avalon, or even the non-mpg optimized Camry.
     
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  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Back to automobile business as usual. New cars will be bigger , more expensive and more thirsty.

    If you want efficiency, you will need to pony up $40K (minimum) to get a BEV.

    And then you are forced to choose between plenty-five flavors of SUV and crossover. And Crosstours.
     
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  15. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I guess if I want a sedan, the choices are Accord or Camry hybrid. As a long-time Honda guy ,it pains me to say........ I prefer the Camry Hybrid.
     
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