2013 Elantra vs. 2016 Elantra, Wheel Wells

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  1. litesong

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    I almost bought a 1973 Fiat 128, but finally bought a 1973 Subaru GL (engine gaskets gave out every 30,000 miles). I went through that time period, thinking about 7 different cars to buy. Only one car had long time durability & of course, that wasn’t the car I bought.
     
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  2. litesong

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    Yeah, you read right. ALL the tires my wife complained about, were made in USA. Now I have them on the 2013 auto Elantra. No wonder they drive so nice on USA roads.
    I got to go for a drive. Tomorrow, the weather is supposed to be better (for wet Western Washington). So I’m going over the mountain pass to Eastern Washington. I love to visit Eastern Washington AND Eastern Oregon. Of course, the gas price will choke me. I’ll take some gas containers & bring back fuel that is a bit cheaper than Western Washington can supply. I might save $8 dollars
     
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  3. litesong

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    Took the 2013 auto Elantra for a drive to Eastern Washington. Very sweet. I’m happy that my wife didn’t like the Big Tires, because they are on the 2013 now! Probably the most pleasant ride, ride-wise, I’ve had to Eastern Washington. At one point the freeway is rough. The big tires really help tame the rough road. On really smooth pavement, the Big Tires are absolutely elegant.
    Did sight-seeing for 2 people. Just found out a past friend of mine died. He loved the mountains, hiking, cross-country skiing, photography, binoculars, fishing, boating on the river, etc. We often had the same interests…….but almost never at the same time. Anyhow, I used my binoculars on the mountains AND LOOKED for the 2 of us.
    At one point, I saw turning Wind Turbines, with the Stuart Range in the Cascade Mountains in the background. Many people say that Wind Turbines desecrate nature views. What desecrates nature views is air pollution, when you can’t see nature views anymore. Anyhow, I guessed the Turbines were 10 miles away. Checking the odometer when I got to the Turbines, they were 16 miles away, when I first saw them. Yeah, Wind Turbines are BIG……& getting bigger.
    Yeah….. two 4000foot & one 3000foot mountain passes made for an exciting outing. & after going over the two 4000foot passes, the Elantra still turned in 41.5MPG.
     
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  4. litesong

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    But, how much DIFFERENT is my yesterday’s trip compared to years past? Two years ago, there was a gas war in an Eastern Washington town. During the gas war with my gas cans along, I was able to buy 55 gallons of gas for $1.25 per gallon. Yesterday again with my gas cans, I had to pay $4.37 per gallon! At least, I didn’t pay $5+ per gallon like at some Western Washington stations now. Still, I won’t be making long distance trips to Eastern Washington anymore, till the prices drop.
    Support war efforts to help Ukraine survive the attacks from russia(always small letters), & remains democratic.
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    PS……& how much DIFFERENT is my yesterday’s trip weather from the weather today? Yesterday, cloudy with Eastern Washington sunshine compares to our present rainy weather AND GUSTY WINDS, at least to 40MPH. A Low off the Pacific Ocean is having gusts to 70MPH north of Vancouver Island. Leaves are blowing off branches & even a small tree along our street has been broken, about 2 feet off the ground! Great trip yesterday……I’m staying home today.
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    PS I……Wow! I didn’t calculate. But the 55gallons during the gas war on different trips, cost me under $69. The 19 gallons I bought on my single trip, cost $83!………wow…..WOW! …….AND the 19 gallons at the time compared to Western Washington state prices at the time, WAS A GOOD DEAL!
     
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

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    Any recreational driving for me is on the Grom.
     
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  6. litesong

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    Yeah, at 160MPG, THAT’S RECREATIONAL DRIVING.
     
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  7. EdwinTheMagnificent

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    Guzzling that precious dino juice in the Prius ( 60 MPG ) is almost sinful , and I know all about sinning , believe me.
    Riding the Grom is easy on the conscience.
     
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  8. litesong

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    But, you can’t keep up with the war criminal, putin(always small letters). As I’ve said on other websites: lenin, stalin, & putin…….ninny, linny & tinny……(always small letters)….
     
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  9. litesong

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    Oh, I just watched a Utube video, with a Canadian Geese pair, escorting their ducklings across 4 lanes of busy traffic. One of the lead car drivers who stopped to let them cross….. was a Hyundai Elantra driver!!!! You find the nicest drivers driving Hyundai’s.
     
  10. litesong

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    Along with the lower than normal temperatures for months in our Western Washington, the TV news just said that our Seattle area May rain was about double its normal amount. Finally got a little extra rain with a few puddles. I did not note any actual hydroplanning. But, the 215mm wide tires on the 2013 Elantra did seem to impact the puddles more than I think 205mm wide tires do…..if I remember the effect of puddles on 205mm wide tires correctly. The 2016 manual Elantra is also a bit lighter than the 2013 auto Elantra. I believed my wife’s hydroplanning complaint from the beginning & now more evidence that she is correct. If the puddles had been any deeper, I think the 2013 Elantra with wider tires could be hydroplanning easier than if the Elantra had OE 205mm tires. Well, how about that! Hyundai probably did choose the right 195mm & 205mm width tires for OE tires on manual & auto Elantras! Still, I like the used 215mm width tires on the 2013 Elantra. Just have to be very careful in the rain…..or optionally, stay home!
     
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  11. litesong

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    Gas prices continue to power upward! No trips to E.WA for me…..not even optional trips to ALL my beloved places at some distance from home. I’m retired & can compensate for increasing prices (not just skyrocketing gasoline prices). But, workers making low wages still must get to work. How they cope is beyond me. Maybe, they might be forced to buy used tires, just like I did!
     
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  12. litesong

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    Took the 2016 manual Elantra to a doctor appointment on the freeway with the Mazama Les Schwab 205X60X16 inch Reputation tires. Not the smoothest tire I’ve ever had, but quite good. One real advantage of the Reputation tire…..it is the quietest tire I have ever had. Conversations & the radio are excellent, without major Elantra tire noise interference problems of the past. Yes, road sound levels are as in a bigger car than the Elantra. The 60 aspect tires certainly don’t give the Elantra a sports car feel at all, lacking precise instant turn-in. Also, on straight roads, they don’t track as if on rails. However, the tires wander from a straight forward trajectory only slowly. Finally, even with extra 38PSI air pressure, tracking seems a bit vague. That MAY improve with extra PSI. However, my wife drives the car mostly & she may not like the extra “tightness”. So, that is my judgement after 50 miles of freeway driving at 60MPH, with no 70+ MPH.
     
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  13. EdwinTheMagnificent

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    That's interesting. The 60 aspect tires on my 89 Civic Si certainly did. That was my sports car.
     
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  14. litesong

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    Since I got the alloy wheel 205X60X16 inch Reputation tires that weren’t the specified steel wheel 195X65X15 inch tires for 2016 manual Elantra, AND the Reputation tires have very deep treads, the Elantra should ride differently than normal. As I said, I may experiment with higher tire pressures(altho 38PSI is already more than specified). I think my wife should like the higher pressures, but we’ll see.
    I think its generally agreed that 35 or 40 aspect ratio tires are “more sporty” & sport cars would float on 60 aspect tires. Years ago, I started experimenting with taller used tires for 2013 auto Elantra, with 16, 17 AND 18 inch wheels with tires ranging from 60 to 35 aspect. I’ve enjoyed the lower aspect ratio tires on the bigger wheels. So that is why the 16 inch wheels with 60 aspect tires seem to float to me.

    Oh, yeah. Some consumer reviews said their MPG went down with the Reputation. At one point my Elantra Guessometer was registering 47+MPG, which is average to above average for the 2016 manual Elantra on a nice warmer day at 60MPH. Anyhow, because I was concentrating on my doctor appointment, had my wife along for the ride & maybe driving a bit faster than my norm, I was pleased with the 47+MPG reading. I didn’t pay attention which way the wind was blowing.
     
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  15. litesong

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    From June 8, 2022:
    OK…….I just looked at the tire pressures for the Reputation tires. One tire was 5 PSI lower than the other 3 tires. Brought the low tire up to the same PSI of the other 3…..& the whole car was smoother. I have no objections to the smoothness of the Reputation tires, now! I don’t think I have ever noticed that 5 PSI extra in 1 tire has ever made such a smoothness difference. It wasn’t much, but just enough to eliminate my objections! ALL RIGHT!
    & again, the Reputation is the quietest tire I’ve ever had!
     
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  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

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    Either that , or it's just the hearing loss that come with old age. :)
     
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  17. litesong

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    Considering highway conversations & radio playing on the Reputation-mounted 2016 manual Elantra, became INSTANTLY MORE, NOT LESS understandable, your consideration does NOT appear to be the case. I am very happy with the “clarity of the quiet Reputations”. :):D
    However, I still love the used over-sized tires that are on the 2013 automatic Elantra. Yeah…..best of both in my Tire World. :cool:
     
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  18. litesong

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    These Reputation tires, I finally discovered, are owned by the parent company, 100 year old Sumitomo Rubber Company, that is presently rated as the 5th largest tire company in the World. Some of the tire brands associated with Sumitomo are Dunlop, Falken, & Ohtsu. At one point in time, Goodyear-Dunlop, USA made business dealings with Sumitomo expanding Dunlop into international markets. Later, Sumitomo & Goodyear-Dunlop, USA ended their partnership & Sumitomo expanded their Dunlop brand internationally. With that in mind, it isn’t surprising that initially my Reputation tires are working well. Hopefully, the years ahead will show good performance & that the high price of the tires will be vindicated.
     
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  19. litesong

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    With a little more time with the Reputations on backroads and freeway, I like the tires very much. The quietness is very comfortable. The tires are getting set & don’t wander as much. Briefly up to 70MPH, the ride remains smooth & quiet.
    The Reputations remind me of my first foray into used over-sized tires, when I replaced OE 15 inch tires & steel wheels with used 17inch Firestone Affinity tires & alloy wheels for my long gone Dodge Caliber. I was totally taken by the smoothness of the 17inchers. Many people didn’t like the Affinities, but I adored them. Once (& only once), the Caliber ride on those Affinities was so comfortable at Freeway 65MPH, I briefly accelerated to 90MPH. Man, the ride was so sweet, it felt like 60MPH.
    However, after numerous tanks(all at my normal low speeds), those big wheels & tires took at least 3% off my MPG. & that was AFTER I’d recalculated for odometer error of the bigger wheels & tires. Did love those Affinity tires, tho.
    Anyhow, back to the Reputations. Yes, the tires on the 2016 manual Elantra are working just as well as my used over-sized Goodyear tires on the 2013 automatic Elantra…..even better after considering how quiet the Reputations are.
    Both Elantras are working better than new…..& both cars are approaching 90,000 miles.
     
  20. litesong

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    With a little more time with the Reputations on backroads and freeway, I like the tires very well. The quietness is very comfortable. The tires are getting set & don’t wander as much. At speeds to 70MPH, the ride remains smooth & quiet.
    The Reputations remind me of my first foray into used over-sized tires, when I replaced OE 15 inch tires & steel wheels with 17inch Firestone Affinity tires & alloy wheels for my long gone Dodge Caliber. I was totally taken by the smoothness of the 17inchers. Many people didn’t like the Affinities, but I adored them. Once (& only once), the Caliber ride on those Affinities, at 90MPH were as if it was going 60MPH.
     
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