Month of March 2022 (Nat'l Avg $3.619)

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  1. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Gord posts US gas averages per the AAA, so per gallon. I don't know where Gord stands with respect to metric vs. Imperial standard (as in 1.0 Imperial gallon = 1.2+ US gallons).
     
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  2. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Last time I was in the UK , petrol was sold in liters.
    Here in the colonies. we're a bit backwards.
     
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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 37 deg F in Naperville , 38 in Elk Grove.
    Wind SSE2.
    33.2 miles , fcd = 63.0 x .943 = 59.4 MPG.
    Longer trip home tonight , as I am
    going to Palatine to see if I can get into the IDOT advanced motorcycle course.
    Maybe 50 miles ; I will check on Google Maps.
     
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  4. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Before I got the Tesla, I converted my liters purchased into UK gallons for my spreadsheet which also had a conversion to get the mpgUS figure I posted on here.
    Litres to UK gallons I divide by 4.546.
    mpgUK to mpgUS I divide by 1.20095

    Apparently you guys adopted a system where a liquid gallon is comprised of 231 cubic inches of water and goes back to Queen Anne’s gallon of 3.785l to measure wine. The American colonists had little contact with us over the pond and stuck to that tradition whereas we changed ours in 1824 to standardise measurements of beer and grain.
     
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Did your Honda diesel and your Audi display consumption in UK gallons ?
     
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  6. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Yes, your UK gallons are an obviously superior method of measurement…..specially after a night at the pub…. Half a UK gallon needed, traveling to & back home from the best pub AND half a UK gallon consumed! No conversions nesecccary …...necessary…..hick! :confused:
     
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  7. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    It's 231 in³ of any liquid, whereas the Imperial gallon is 10 pounds of water, approximately---and I'd guess originally by definition.
     
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  8. litesong

    litesong litesong

    However, an 8pound US gallon of water, when squared, equals 64 pounds of water, equals 1 cubic foot…… again…..hick! :confused: Too much thinkin’ fer me. I’m retired & don’t have to think, no more, no how! But now, so many people love that there metric system. OK.
     
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  9. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, thank goodness, I, along with most people in the UK (probably) still think about miles per gallon even though we fill up in liters. At least we still use miles and not kilometres :rolleyes:.
    A lot of people still convert the price per litre to price per gallon. I personally would have left it as gallons but it’s probably too late to change back even though we’ve left the EU (it was their fault :p).

    This morning, 45°F, to free 11kW charger

    2.9 miles - 133 Wh/mi or 7.5 Mi/kWh
    27.6 miles added in 33"

    Charger to work:
    19.2 miles - 216 Wh/mi or 4.6 Mi/kWh

    Also, good point Red :cool: and go steady litesong lol hic
     
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  10. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Hey…..did someone say free? Someone said free……..no, they said FREE! Yabba dabba doooooo! &…..hick…oh, heck….hic!
     
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  11. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Back home last night, 48°F:
    19.6 miles - 231 Wh/mi or 4.3 Mi/kWh

    This morning, 38°F, to free 11kW charger, had a walk down the canal path again.

    2.8 miles - 208 Wh/mi or 4.8 Mi/kWh
    31.89 miles added in 37"

    Charger to work:
    19.2 miles - 231 Wh/mi or 4.3 Mi/kWh
     
  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Had a great trip home yesterday. Elk Grove to Palatine ( 8.9 miles ) ,stop there for 20 min ,
    then Golf Rd and Rte 59 home.
    Total 42.7 miles. Fcd = 68.4 x .943 = 64.5 MPG.
    Today , 44 deg F in Naperville , 47 in Elk Grove , wind SSW5.
    33.2 miles , fcd =64.9 x .943 = 61.2 MPG.
    About 100 miles remaining , I may not fill up until Saturday morning.
     
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  13. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Yeah, that’s what I say…….or wish I could say…..if I had an 2022 Chevy Bolt that I can’t afford now.
     
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  14. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Why would you want a car that you cannot afford? ;):p

    edit: okay, nix that... There are many cars that I may want, but I cannot afford, so now I understand.

    By the way, if you keep waiting for something new in your price range, you may get further priced out. (e.g. Tesla) For example, you could have had a new Chevy Bolt EV already. ($15k below list was what I paid for my 2018 before tax incentives. I later traded in that car with no depreciation loss and I got a great price on the Crosstrek Hybrid.)

    With the earlier Bolt EVs, you would be getting a fresh, new pack for no extra cost now. Or you could have had a lightly used recent Bolt EV and have that free pack replacement/upgrade.

    Further waiting and the free EV charging spots are only going to get more crowded, so I don't know if free EV charging will be here to stay.

    I understand you are also waiting for the onboard 11 kW charger. That would be a boon, but 6.6 kW isn't that bad. Also, if you had the DC charging option, the Bolt EV could be charging at some free 50 kW DC chargers now and it would not affect your long-term battery condition. (edit: used appropriately :))

    edit 2: Just some additional info on the free chargers near me. I have access to some free ChargePoint 6.6 kW chargers. These particular ones are dual output, so if 2 EVs are charging at the same time, the 6.6 kW is split. So even the fastest AC onboard charger will charge at 3.3 kW when two are charging. That was quite a disappointment for me when I saw that. While 3.3 kW is okay for older EVs and plug-in hybrids, the ones that can take 6.6 kW or better are wasting their owner's time there unless able to charge for hours. That makes for public free charging spots taken up all day by the first people there, e.g. at a train station or commuter parking lot.
     
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  15. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Very good points Bill.

    At the 11kW free charger I went to, someone was charging using the paid for 50kW charger but I still got the full 11kW using my cable but I have seen on other chargers the output is split if 2 people are charging.
     
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  16. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    kW•hr is energy. Power is kW.
     
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  17. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today 45 deg F in Naperville , 41 in Elk Grove.
    Wind NNE 10 ( stiff headwind ).
    33.2 miles , fcd = 59.5 x .943 = 56.1 MPG.

    Finished my trip home yesterday with 72.5 showing on the fcd.
     
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  18. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Did the winds continue in the same direction & you had a tailwind going home?
     
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  19. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    that 33.2/56.1 was the trip in to work. Hopefully the wind holds up when I go south again at 4:30.
     
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  20. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Bought fuel at an Exxon/Mobil today.
    Prices have dropped a little here ; 87 E10 was $4.489.
    559.7 miles , fcd = 60.8 x .943 = 57.3 MPG.
     
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