Hi All: A Charging Profile thread is probably useful going forward as that profile is a direct indication as to how long an individual would be parked at a given public high speed DCFC. Let me know your thoughts regarding the design of the charging profile and details within. And of course, any changes to make it even more understandable going forward. 2022 Audi GT 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 2021 Porsche Taycan with Battery+ 2021 Porsche Taycan w/ Battery Plus DCFC Charging Profile 5 - 80% on an Electrify America 350 KW DCFC took 18-minutes and 58-seconds. Electrify America DCFC Display with charge complete. The belle of the ball - the most beautiful girl at the dance. Initial conditions included the aforementioned 5% SOC and a battery temp of 91 degrees F. These take a lot of time as I am pulling the time stamp from each 1 percent of SOC off of an internally recorded video, creating a spreadsheet from that data, and then the charging profile graph(s) with that discrete level of detail. Wayne
Thanks , Wayne. These charging profiles could be very useful. Especially for a BEV that I could afford.
That looks pretty good to me! If this is to give an idea on how long somebody would need to charge for, then it would also be good to see how much range is available from 5% to 80% as the SoC increases. That's a good amount of extra calculation, so you could maybe just add something in the chart title showing the estimated range at 100% SoC. Then if somebody wants to calculate how much charging time they will need to drive 100 miles, it's just some quick math for them.
Hi All: Latest iteration: What I am concerned with going forward is that many BEVs do not show the real time charging Rate and SOC within their central displays. I can pull this info from the Electrify America display vids but they flash into a splash screen about every minute or two and flash back to the rate and SOC screen. Meaning I am going to miss a lot of data points from any vid recorded of the same. Wayne
Hi All: The Charging Profile is a direct indication as to how long an individual will be parked at a given public high speed DCFC. 2022 Audi GT RS w/ 21" Performance Summer Tires 5 to 80% Charging Profile 5 - 80% on an Electrify America 350 KW DCFC took 19-minutes and 17-seconds. Electrify America DCFC Display with charge from 5 to 80% SOC complete. Damn focus anyway. 19-minutes and 17-seconds. Another beautiful ride. Initial conditions included an initial 5% SOC and ambient temp of 53 degrees F. The Audi does not provide any Charging Detail other than SOC (central display) on the driver or central display while attached to a high speed DCFC. While on a Level 2, the driver display does show the charging power (KW). Wayne
Hi All: I pulled the details for this one from the Hyundai media sites vid of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 charging from 10 to 80% SOC in just under 19-minutes. 18-minutes and 55-seconds to be exact. When I pick one up for a review, I will perform the same but from 5% to keep them all on the same track. The most interesting thing is that the Ioniq 5 is still charging above 120 KW from 69 to 80%. Many of the newer BEVs including the Toyota AWD bZ4X and Subaru AWD Solterra charge at a maximum of just 100 KW from the get go. I have seen one pic of an AWD bZ4X charging at just 24 KW at 62% SOC. Good god, what a mess those things are going to be compared to the Ioniq 5/EV6 contingent. Another interesting aspect of this curve is how flat it is between the step changes. The Korean electrical engineers programming the BMS and charging input control should be very proud of themselves. Wayne
Hi All: I was looking for the 2022 Kia EV6 Charging Profile video segments on my laptop forever. They were still on my GoPro 9. 2022 Kia EV6 Charging on an EA 150 KW in Oceanside, CA Below is how fast it charged from 5 to 68% on an EA 350 in Ontario, CA until the DCFC glitch occurred at the 02:21 mark. I slowed that portion of the charge down in the vid so you could see it for yourself. 2022 Kia EV6 350 KW EA Charging Vid and Profile Wayne
Hi All: Another Tesla but this time a 2020 Model 3 LR on a Tesla 150 KW SuperCharger. The screenshot was taken just 1 second before 80% SOC was reached and the charge completed. Here you can see the 54 KW charge rate, the $0.40/KWh price, the total cost ($24.44 when it completed) and the total KWh the Model 3 LR has taken (61.082 KWh) while charging from 5 to 80% SOC. The total time was 40-minutes and 5-seconds. The (2) jumps occurred when a Tesla on the same charger exited and another when another a Tesla on a charger one over left as well. Wayne
Hi All: The above can be compared to an older 2017 Model S on a 120KW Tesla SuperCharger in Mitchell, SD. This charge profile showed how an Older Model S on a V2 can run into a time to charge problem even when all by its lonesome. Wayne
Hi All: Here is the 2023 Ford Mustang Mach-E with the large pack charging on both an EVgo 350 KW and an Electrify America 350 KW. 5 to 80% in 45-min and 39-sec. 5 to 80% in 46-min and 38-sec. Wayne
Hi All: I did not create a charging profile for this because the Kia EV6 includes an 800V architecture and I was under the false presumption that this was going to take 35 to 45-minutes on an EA 150 KW charger. Boy was I wrong and I wish I had recorded it for a proper graph. I mean this is the way charging should be done by all OEMS. Period, Full Stop, Do Not Pass Go!!! Even on a lowly Electrify America 150KW, the EV6 charged from 5 to 80% in just 21-minutes. This is just 3 minutes slower than when attached to a 350 KW! It started up at 160 KW and just hung there until close to 60% before it started to fall like it should. Take a look at the 133 KW rate even at 80% Nobody offers that. Nobody! 2022 Kia EV6 Charging on your everyday, standard, Electrify America 150 KW in Oceanside, CA. Considering the big picture, the EV6/Ioniq 5/6 charges faster than anything I have tested on a 150KW and puts all of the 400V architecture vehicles to shame while taking over twice as long on the same 150KW charger including the two Tesla Model S and Model 3 we have recorded! I was in a 2023 Prototype Lexus RZ 450e that I still need to complete the charging profile for. I will incorporate a slow ChargePoint L2, a shared charging session on EVgo 350KW, and an Electrify America 350 KW in that one for a comparison. It took 41-minutes just like the bZ4X did. It should since it is the same HW and SW. Both are also a 400V Architecture so 150 or 350 KW, will charge similarly. Wayne
Hi All: While I have not started inputting every SOC change measured to the seconds data into Excel to create the full charging profile and I may never actually do that since it matches the bZ4X. Here are the full charge details covering my last night with it a few weeks ago while near Toyota HQ in Plano, TX. 2023 Lexus RZ 450e "Prototype" Charging Results Charge occurred on an Electrify America 350 KW - Station ID 100168-03 - Charger #3, Cord #2 in Denton, TX late on the night of Sept. 7th and completed in the early morning of Sept. 8th, 2023. Notice the charge rate at 80% compared to the same of the EV6 in the post above? Texas is now a per KWh charge state vs minutes before. It costs a lot more at $24.41 than the less than $10 charge for 5 to 80% with the bZ4X last year. Wayne
