Month of September 2021 (Nat’l avg $3.174)

Discussion in 'The Daily Grind' started by Gord, Sep 1, 2021.

  1. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Welcome to the grind :D

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  2. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    I’m not well at the moment but improving, so I will update my numbers from the Tesla Model 3 Long Range in due course!
     
  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Hope you feel better , Gord. And as always , thanks for starting our thread.
     
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  4. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    ^^Amen!
     
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  5. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks guys and no problem :)
     
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  6. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 64 deg F in Northbrook and Elk Grove.
    17.2 miles , fcd = 74.8 x .943 = 70.5 MPG.
    I chose to buy fuel in Northbrook Sunday night. Possibly the most expensive area
    in suburban Cook County. $3.599/gallon of 87 E10.
    In Elk Grove I could buy Exxon for $3.399.
     
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  7. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Had a 7.5kW charger fitted at the back of my garage (I always reverse in but the cable is 16 feet long anyway).

    Added 127 miles of range using new home charger.

    Was still not feeling very well Wednesday and Thursday so didn't go to work.

    9/3, to work, motorway route, 59°F:
    21.5 miles - 202 Wh/mi or 167MPGe (Range dropped 21)

    Going home at lunchtime, made it to the motorway, 61°F:
    21.5 miles - 207 Wh/mi or 163MPGe (Range dropped 22 to 226)

    later on went to my mum's, 63°F:
    4.4 miles - 154 Wh/mi or 219MPGe (Range dropped 4)
    4.4 miles - 269 Wh/mi or 125MPGe (Range dropped 6) - bet you can till which way is downhill!

    Topped up the range at home, 37 miles added in 90 minutes

    9/4, various trips with mother-in-law on board:
    3.4 miles - 157 Wh/mi or 219MPGe
    6.7 miles - 194 Wh/mi or 174MPGe
    4.6 miles - didn't record it

    Dropped mother-in-law off and went to supermarket for a shop and a free charge:
    71 miles added in 34 minutes, range at 315 miles

    Back home, 64°F:
    2.8 miles - 243 Wh/mi or 139MPGe

    Further trips in the afternoon, 66°F:
    6.8 miles - 165 Wh/mi or 204MPGe
    4.4 miles - 265 Wh/mi or 127MPGe


    9/5, went to a garden center - a road was closed so needed a detour, 68°F:
    12.4 miles - 188 Wh/mi or 179MPGe
    9.1 miles - 217 Wh/mi or 155MPGe


    9/6, to work, motorway route, 63°F:
    21.5 miles - 194 Wh/mi or 174MPGe (Range dropped 21)

    Going home, non-motorway route, 81°F - tried out the vent feature on my way to the car - neat! - lowered all 4 windows an inch:
    19.6 miles - 216 Wh/mi or 156MPGe (Range dropped 21 - had climate on most of the way)

    This morning, to work, motorway route, 61°F:
    21.4 miles - 200 Wh/mi or 169MPGe (Range dropped 21)

    Nearly 800 miles driven so far and loving it - excellent!
     
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  8. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Last night, motorway route, even warmer 86°F - the tesla App said it was 120°F in the cabin so vented again then had climate on as I walked to the car but only 1/2 fan:
    19.6 miles - 207 Wh/mi or 163MPGe (Range dropped 20)

    This morning, to work, motorway route, 61°F:
    21.4 miles - 193 Wh/mi or 175MPGe (Range dropped 20)

    Range 170 miles

    Quite happy with these numbers :D
     
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  9. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Gord:

    Thank you!!!

    I am in an EPA rated 2.22 miles/kWh 2021 Porsche Taycan this month and its high speed efficiency is impressive...

    2021 Porsche Taycan Charging

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    Wayne
     
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  10. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Maybe in 2023, I want to get an EV (like Tesla Model 3 SR), but with a supposed long-lasting (400-500,000+mile) 4680-cell, battery pack. I believe Tesla (& other manufacturers) that fast Level 3 charging has to shorten battery pack life. So, I will charge only with Level II EVSE power supplies on day trips. I hope whatever EV I get AND with careful driving, I will obtain 4.5 to 5 miles/kWh (more?). With such efficiency, & lots of patient Level II charging, I hope to be able to take 300 to 400 mile day trips AND still take excellent care of my battery to get that 400-500,000+ mile longevity.​
     
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  11. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Litesong:
    When you are crossing the country, you will have a tough time waiting at an 11 KW or less L2 charger to bring you back to 80 percent so you can continue. Most L2s are 3.3 or 6.6 KW. A 6.6 KW charger would take well over 13 hours for 200 to 400-miles of range. Most will charge at home at 3 to 19 KW for their daily needs but when you are out on the road away from home, you simply do not have that kind of time.

    Wayne
     
  12. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hi Wayne :)

    I will have to try and work out my efficiency in miles/kWh to see how my Model 3 compares.

    The Porsche looks great :cool:

    ** EDIT ** - my average since last charge has been 4.9 miles/kWh mainly commuting :D
     
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  13. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Oh, Wayne. You know better than that. I ain’t gettin’ rid of our 2 Elantras (specially the manual tranny) & they will be available for cross-country jaunts. Even if I did take the EV cross-country, I wouldn’t charge to 80%. I would be charging on L2 chargers(most free?) only in their sweet charging spots, which is NOT 20% to 80%. Hey, as I said, I’m retired. I can cross-country as slow as I want. I’ll do my best to charge at L2 chargers(most free?) in interesting spots, so I can really take advantage of all the beauty this country offers. I discovered 50 years ago, that I loved many many areas people want to just buzz through to get where they want to be. Me, I love Points A & B…..& all the points in-between A & B.
    Yeah, what an advantage of EVs….to travel & charge(mostly free?) as slow as I want. To travel & NOT pay for charging? I guess rich people jes’ don’ know the freedom of free fuel! Rich people pay for fuel & it don’t mean nuthin’ to them. Poor people pay for fuel, at the expense of their next meal(s?)?
     
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  14. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Last night, motorway route, 86°F again - the cabin wasn't as warm as yesterday as I got a spot with shade in the afternoon - vented, fan speed 1 of 10 which I ended up putting it up to 4/10 by the time I got home but no A/C:
    19.7 miles - 196 Wh/mi or 172MPGe (Range dropped 20)

    This morning, to work, motorway route, 66°F:
    21.4 miles - 195 Wh/mi or 173MPGe (Range dropped 21 to 129)

    The car wanted to do a software update (2021.24.5) when I parked up at work. Said it would take approx 25 minutes to install - didn't bother scheduling it and set it to install straight away - it gave me a 2-minute countdown to get out of the car!
    Apparently, it's added Disney+ to the theater app, car wash mode, mirror auto-dim and dashcam improvements. You can also now switch between battery percentage and miles remaining by tapping the range display next to the battery icon (could be useful!). They have also included autopark for parallel and perpendicular spots - may have to try that feature out.

    I know what you’re saying Litesong, I’m gonna get myself a free charge tonight :D
     
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  15. litesong

    litesong litesong

    I’m glad to hear your next battery charge won’t keep you & your family from their next meal.
     
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  16. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I drove the 225 mile and 2.22 mile/kWh rated Taycan to LA City Hall with a full charge from the EA 350 KW at the BOA in Chinatown about .75-miles away. Afterwards, I headed east towards NYC seconds after I snapped this beauty.

    2021 Porsche Taycan

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    A short stop at LA CIty Hall before heading East.​

    Climbing from 350' ASL to 4,100' ASL at the Cajon Pass on the 15 and down to 3,400' ASL in Kingman, AZ, the Taycan had traveled some 322-miles and still had 27% SOC at 4.7 mi/kWh.

    Wayne
     
  17. litesong

    litesong litesong

    4.7mi/kWh in the mountains plus a gain of elevation? Where’s my $250,000 to buy the Taycan? Oh….I don’t have it………& never did. The World produces all these GOOD DEALS that I can’t afford. The only consolation I get is that Wayne was driving the Taycan(tin can), & I couldn’t obtain 4.7mi/kWh.
     
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  18. litesong

    litesong litesong

    The free public charger a mile away, that I’ve mentioned before, is probably no more than 30Amps. If it works at all, I can walk home, letting it charge for a number of hours, then walk back & drive my future EV home….or take it for a drive. Hey, free electrons & a walk besides. Can I ask for more? No, I can’t.
     
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  19. Sulfuric

    Sulfuric Well-Known Member

    The front 2 tires on my 2016 Prius 2 Eco are almost ready to go to tire heaven. I searched for some efficient tires to replace them but it's been a very long time since I've done any research on tires. Is there an updated list with LRR tires that are recommended?

    Here's what I'm leaning toward:
    Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus | 195/65R15 (tirerack.com)

    Seems to have excellent treadwear and A ratings on temps and traction. I had something similar nearly a decade ago and liked their MPG as well, but not sure if there's something even more efficient.
     
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  20. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Sulfuric:
    The OEM Ecopia's are the go to. The OEM Dunlop Enasave's are more efficient but cost more and have lower tread wear.

    I have used and continue to use both. Two good choices for your super Prius.

    Wayne
     
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