Meet the all-new 11th Gen 2022 Honda Civic

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] The exterior speaks to quietly for my tastes.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – April 28, 2021

    2022 Honda Civic Intro


    Honda’s longest-running automotive nameplate, has seen more than 12 million U.S. driveways since 1973.

    What's New:
    • Very simple exterior and interior styling
    • All-digital LCD instrument display (Touring)
    • 7-inch color touchscreen with Apple CarPlay & Android Auto
    • 9-inch HD color touchscreen with wireless Apple CarPlay & Android Auto (Touring)
    • Civic-first Bose premium sound system with 12 speakers (Touring)
    • Qi-compatible wireless charging (Touring)
    • Stiffer body
    • More powerful and efficient 1.5L turbo
    • Updated suspension and steering tuning
    • New front airbags designed to reduce traumatic brain and neck injuries
    • Civic-first rear seat side airbags
    • Updated Honda Sensing system with new front wide-view camera, plus new Traffic Jam Assist and Low Speed Braking Control (Touring)
    In designing the 11th-generation Civic, Honda focused on the original Honda design approach. While the exterior styling Civic incorporates these timeless design concepts, the edginess of the 10th gen is what sold. They could find themselves in a little trouble with enthusiasts desire for this one?

    2022 Honda Civic Exterior Design

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    Key to the new Civic’s styling was moving the bottom of the windshield pillars rearward by nearly 2 inches, which elongates its hood.

    A low beltline with horizontal windowsills and door-mounted side mirrors improve visibility while maintaining unobstructed clean lines. The lower character line starting at the bottom front door, rises across the rear doors, and through the rear fenders for its own sense of motion. It is a rocker panel cut out which is its one redeeming exterior feature.

    Honda used terms like visual stability, planted stance, communicates performance, communicates its performance, emphasize the width … Honda PR was searching.

    LED lighting is used for the exterior, including the wide-set headlights, DRLs, parking lights, and available fogs.

    2022 Honda Civic Drivetrain(s)

    Like the 10th gen, the same two I4s will be offered in the 2022 model: A 2.0L or the more efficient and powerful turbocharged 1.5. Both are paired with an updated continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT). Power delivery, engine sound, overall refinement and EPA fuel economy ratings of both engines are improved, with the 1.5L also getting a boost in output.

    Standard in LX and Sport trims, the 2.0L I4 produces 158 hp and 138 lb.-ft. of torque. Due in part to a new standard idle-stop system and a new catalytic converter design, fuel efficiency and emissions have also improved. The 2.0L performed poorly in our first and last drive of a 10th gen LX about 5 years ago. The revised CVT enhances fuel efficiency by using more robust electric hydraulic pump which reduces the load on the mechanical pump, and a ball-bearing secondary shaft to reduce friction. Also, the transmission has been programmed to provide early downshifts during braking and features revised Step-Shift programming that simulates physical gear changes under hard acceleration for a more familiar and enjoyable driving experience.

    For EX and Touring trims, the turbo’ed 1.5L I4 produces 180 hp and 177 lb.-ft. of torque, up 6 hp and 15 lb.-ft. of torque from the 2021. Multiple measures contribute to improved fuel economy ratings, including new more efficient turbo plumbing and the addition of Variable Timing and lift Electronic Control (VTEC) to the exhaust valves. The CVT for the 1.5L features improved torque converter performance, while also adopting revised Step-Shift programming. A new lightweight flex tube in the exhaust system decreases noise transmission.

    In addition to the standard Normal and Eco driving modes, 2.0L Sport and 1.5L Touring now features a user-selectable Sport mode. Using a toggle switch on the center console, the new Sport mode alters the drive ratios and mapping for a sportier feel, and changes the meter lighting to red. Eco mode reduces throttle and transmission sensitivity, as well as air conditioning output to help preserve fuel efficiency.

    2022 Honda Civic Sedan EPA Fuel Economy Ratings (City/Hwy/Combined mpgUS)

    LX - 31/40/35, up 1, 2 and 2 mpg respectively.
    Sport - 29/37/32, up 1, 0, and 1 mpg respectively.
    EX - 33/42/36, up 1, 0, and 0 mpg respectively.
    Touring - 31/38/34, up 1, 0, and 1 mpg respectively.

    2022 Honda Civic Interior Design

    Honda’s interior packaging results in ample head, leg, shoulder and hip room for all passengers.

    The pulled-back A-pillars, low hood, flat dash and hidden wipers provide better sightlines. The low cowl is the same height as the door sills that extends from the dash all the way to the rear doors. The outside mirrors also have been positioned away from the windshield pillars to improve visibility.

    A metal honeycomb mesh accent stretches from door to door across the dash. It conceals the air vents.

    All Civic trims benefit from a new front seat design. Using Honda’s Body Stabilizing Seat approach, the new-generation seat frame firmly holds the body, enhancing comfort on long drives.

    For the first time, all Civic trims have either a partial or full (Touring) digital instrument display with larger standard and available color touchscreens.

    LX, Sport and EX grades are equipped with a 7” color LCD instrument display similar to that found in Accord. An all-digital speedometer and tachometer are on the left side of the instrument panel, while a physical speedometer dial occupies the right side.

    Touring models incorporate for the first time, Civic’s first all-digital LCD instrument display. Measuring 10.2 inches, the high-definition full-color LCD panel displays a variety of information, all customizable from the steering wheel. The custom modes include showing gauges in a traditional round needle-and-dial, or bar graphs flanking the left and right of the screen. In the middle is a variety of user-selectable information, such as the current music selection and a trip computer, with the center of the display used to indicate the status of various Honda Sensing safety and driver assistive systems.

    LX, Sport and EX trims arrive with a standard 7” color touchscreen, with both a physical power/volume knob and a tuning/selection knob. About time they corrected that mistake. At the bottom is a row of hard buttons for skipping music tracks, navigating the audio menu, and selecting between phone, radio, Bluetooth or USB media, or a connected smartphone for use with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.

    Civic Touring’s new 9-inch display is the largest ever in any Honda-brand vehicle, and features just one physical volume knob (whoops again :(), large, easy-to-recognize icons, and a simplified navigation structure with fewer embedded menus. On the left are hard buttons for Home and Back functions.

    Other mode selections are at the bottom of the touchscreen. The touchscreen also include wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, while Touring comes standard with Qi-compatible wireless charging.

    2022 Honda Civic Bose Audio

    Touring trims also feature Bose Centerpoint 2 and Bose SurroundStage DSP custom-engineered for the Civic’s new interior.

    Audio engineers developed the Bose system with advanced components and technologies, working closely with Honda engineers to integrate the system early in the vehicle design process. Clear, clean sound is supposedly delivered through high-performance Bose speakers, strategically placed throughout the Civic’s interior for accurate reproduction of frequencies, low to high.

    Bose Premium Sound System include the following:[/CENTER]
    • One 3.25-inch Twiddler mid/high-range speaker in the center of the instrument panel.
    • Four 1-inch lightweight neodymium tweeters – one in each A-pillar and one in each rear door.
    • Two 6.5-inch wide-range speakers – one in each front door.
    • Two 5.25-inch wide-range speakers – one in each rear door.
    • Two 3.25-inch Twiddler mid/high-range speakers – one on each side of the rear deck.
    • One 8-inch woofer in the center of the rear deck
    • Digital amp w/ 12 channels of custom equalization and advanced DSP
    2022 Honda Civic Touring Interior

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    2022 Honda Civic Body Structure and Suspension

    The 11th-gen Civic body structure sees an 8 percent improvement in torsional rigidity and 13 percent improvement in bending rigidity versus the 10th generation. The stiffer structure supports improvements in ride, handling and reduces the transmission of road and wind noise.

    The Civic’s suspension has modified to take advantage of the stiffer structure with an additional 1.4-inches of wheelbase for a smoother ride.

    The front struts feature new low-friction ball joints and front damper mount bearings to improve steering feel and self-centering, and the spring and damper alignment has been optimized to minimize operational friction.

    Out back, the track is 0.5-inch wider with a new larger compliance bushing that improves bushing axis to minimize harshness. The two rear lower arms are equipped with a new bushing that reduces NVH inside the cabin and improves straight-line stability and turn in. The electronic power steering has been re-tuned to provide better feedback and improved straight-line stability.

    New low-drag front brake calipers and low-friction front and rear wheel bearings reduce rolling resistance and help improve the Civic’s efficiency.

    The reduced suspension friction and upgraded bushings reduce road shock by up to 20 percent.

    2022 Honda Civic Safety

    The 2022 Civic adds multiple new active and passive safety systems. In a world’s first application, both driver and passenger frontal airbags in the 2022 Civic are designed to better reduce conditions associated with brain injury by better controlling head motions in certain types of crashes. Similar in intent to the passenger front airbag technology featured in the 2021 Acura TLX and 2022 Acura MDX, these all-new airbag designs attempt to address the recently recognized issue of severe brain trauma associated with angled frontal collisions. The new front driver’s airbag uses an innovative donut-shaped structure to cradle and hold the head to reduce rotation. The passenger-side front airbag uses a three-chamber design to achieve a similar result, with two outer chambers designed to cradle and control head rotation.

    The Advanced Compatibility Engineering (ACE) body structure has been enhanced for even better compatibility with larger vehicles. This includes improved occupant protection in angled frontal collisions, with a new upper A-pillar structure, side frame and lower firewall structure designed to route crash energy around the cabin. Side impact protection also has been improved, with stiffer structures in the roof, side sill and B-pillar, doors, and the rear wheel arch and C-pillar.

    The standard Honda Sensing suite of active safety and driver assistive technologies uses a new single-camera system that provides a wider field of view than the previous radar-and-camera based system. Combined with software advances and a new, more powerful processor, the system is also capable of more quickly and accurately identifying pedestrians, bicyclists and other vehicles, along with road lines and road signs.

    Honda Sensing has been enhanced with expanded driver-assistive functionality. The system now adds Traffic Jam Assist, and the new camera-based system improves on existing functionality, such as more natural brake application and quicker reactions when using Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC). It also has more linear and natural steering action when using the Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS). With the addition of eight sonar sensors, Civic, for the first time, features Low-Speed Braking Control, and front and rear false-start prevention.

    A new front bumper beam safety plate design was incorporated to decrease leg injuries and a hood with an embossed inner structure designed to improve head protection performance.

    2022 Honda Civic Sedan

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    Civic has been built in North America for 35 years with nearly 11 million vehicles produced, including more than five million of those in the U.S. The 11th-generation will continue that legacy with production of the Civic Sedan in Alliston, Ontario, Canada, and for the first time, the Civic Hatchback will be manufactured in the U.S., at the company’s Greensburg, Indiana plant. All Civic production in North American will use domestic and globally-sourced parts.
     
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  2. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    The proportions look good, but somehow this still comes across as a little flat and bland.
     
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  3. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    I like the styling a lot better but the CVT is a deal killer. Still. When the 10th gen Civic hatch first came out, I ordered one with a 6MT. And waited. And waited. Turns out the 6MT was only available in theory, not in practice, and I walked. In the intervening years, Honda has pruned more 6MT options from the lineup and the 11th gen has fewer still.
     
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  4. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    This looks great. I even like the CVT. But my favorite "Civic" is still the Insight.
    Too bad the dealers in our area don't really want to sell them.
     
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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Compared to your 10th gen "circus wagon" , it is a little flat and bland. But since I'm
    30 years older , I'd say it looks dignified , stately. ;)
     
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  6. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    so does a hearse... but maybe not this one.

    upload_2021-5-19_10-30-57.png seen online someplace I'd never heard of before, but easy to find...
     
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  7. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    I would love to see Honda release a wagon in place of (or in addition to) the hatch. It's time for a resurgence in wagons. Volvo and VW make beautiful wagons. It can be done. You buy a hatchback for the extra utility; why not an extra utilitious hatch--a wagon. I'm on board with a beautiful Civic wagon. Just don't put a CVT in it.
     
  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Hear , hear ! I'm with ya.
     
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  9. WriConsult

    WriConsult Super Moderator

    Having actually owned three Civic Wagons, I'm on board with this too. I mourned the end of the Civic Wagon 20 years ago (1991 was the final year for NA, though they continued to sell that generation in Japan for a few years longer as the Civic Beagle), and I've long since given up. The Hyundai Elantra Touring (which I bought in 2011 during the last used-car shortage) was the closest thing ever sold here since then, and probably ever will be. The HR-V MT (which they did sell for 3 years, and yes you can find used ones out there) is the second-closest. If I were in the market for a vehicle that size right now, I'd probably get one, even if I had to pay asking price and go a few hundred miles away to get it. Let's see what the next HR-V looks like too: it certainly won't have an MT, but it may well have a hybrid version, which would at least be acceptable.

    Jay, the 6MT Civic Hatchback is not an illusion. I'm not sure they produced any the first year, or the alleged LX version ever, but after the first year or so they have definitely made it in significant numbers in the Sport trim. A check of local inventory last week showed several MT Sport Hatchbacks on dealer lots.

    Remember that this preview of the 11th gen Civic is only for the sedan. The hatchback will be unveiled later. Honda has already hinted that the Si and Type R will be available with MTs (which might mean the Si will be a hatchback? Or maybe just released later? Still unclear). They have been at worst equivocal about whether the Sport hatch might be offered in MT form. But I'm not surprised they've dropped it for the sedan. The competition has mostly done the same already, and of course they dropped it from the Accord last year as well.

    I don't care too much about car looks, but even I would have to buy the current hatch in black to hide those hideous fake vents in back, that's for sure. So the new stying is an improvement. There was nowhere to go but up.
     
  10. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    It was actually the 10 gen LX with a 6MT that I wanted. It was perfect--all the stuff I wanted. None of the stuff I didn't. No compromises. I even negotiated a pretty good price on it. I paid my deposit with a provision that I could walk if the order didn't come in before 6 months. It did not. The sport had the big fat tires I didn't want and some other junk + extra money. Nope.
     
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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    After five-some years to get used to the hideous 10th gen car , I STILL think it's bad. A sedan in certain colors , not so bad.
    But the 11th gen car is nice. Make mine an Insight.
    Honda needs to offer a decent PHEV. I wouldn't consider a Clarity.
     
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  12. WriConsult

    WriConsult Super Moderator

    Would love to see a hatchback option return to the Insight. Or call it a Civic hatchback. Whatever. Then I won't have to care about the MT as much.

    I too would have been more interested in the LX MT than the Sport, Jay. I guess they eventually did build it, though I've never seen one, and they later dropped it. A current national search of used-car listings shows 154 MT Sport hatchbacks, and only 13 MT LX hatchbacks. But that is more than zero.
     
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2022 North American Car, Truck and Utility of the Year Awards


    The 2022 North American Car, Truck and Utility Vehicle of the Year (NACTOY) award winners were announced during a joint press conference at Huntington Place in Detroit. After three rounds of independently verified voting stemming from hundreds of hours of test driving, research and evaluation, the 2022 North American Car winner is the 2022 Honda Civic.

    A closer look at the all-new 2022 Honda Civic

    This year, jurors had the choice between three very different cars. The all-new 2022 Honda Civic brings newfound refinement to the iconic compact car, while Volkswagen has emphasized fun-driving performance with the Mk VIII Golf GTI and Golf R. Then there’s the Lucid Air – a vehicle many of our jurors have said is a truly game-changing luxury electric car.

    2022 Honda Civic 4-door Sedan

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    When equipped with the award winning 1.5L Turbo mated to a CVT offers an EPA 33/42/36 mpgUS city/highway/combined rating. 1 more mpg city than the outgoing 2021 MY.​

    But for 2022, jurors gave the Civic the most votes.
    Wayne
     
  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    And that's why I bought five of 'em.
     
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  15. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Civic is America’s Best-Selling Retail Passenger Car for 6th Straight Year

    Driven by the popularity of the all-new 11th-generation Civic, the Honda Civic is the best-selling retail passenger car in the U.S. for the sixth year in a row. Civic has dominated the compact car segment for 12 consecutive years and in 2021, captured one in four retail sales in the category.

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    Since 2013, Civic is the No. 1 vehicle among Millennial buyers. It also has captured the most Gen Z buyers, first-time buyers, and multicultural buyers in the industry for the past six years.

    Honda has sold nearly 2 million Civics in the U.S. since 2016 and Civic is the No. 1 selling certified pre-owned car in America in each of the past three years5. And now the all-new 2022 Civic leads its competitive segment in residual value, according to J.D. Power.

    The 2022 Civic Sedan, Civic Hatchback, and performance Civic Si Sedan deliver fun-to-drive dynamics, stylish design, an award-winning interior, excellent fuel efficiency, and cutting-edge standard technology. An all-new, high-performance Civic Type R will join the lineup this year.

    Introduced in 1973, Civic is the longest-running automotive nameplate in Honda history and is one of the top three best-selling cars in America over the past five decades with more than 12 million units sold.

    Wayne
     
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  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Remember when Accord or Camry won all those sales records ? The lowly "compacts" like Civic and Corolla
    were for poor folk. Now, people who ( think they ) need something bigger go straight to the SUV or crossover.

    Make my Civic a sedan,1.5T and CVT.
     
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  17. RedylC94

    RedylC94 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but .... Today's Civic and Corolla are larger, more powerful, and more elaborate than Accords and Camry's were a few years ago. Early Civics were more the size of today's Mirage, so adding sales of all five decades of Civic generations together is silly.
     
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  18. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Yeah. The 10th and 11th gen Civic is about as big a car as I'd like to have. For city/suburban driving , which is unfortunately all
    I usually get to do , I'd prefer something more Mirage-sized , like a Fit or Prius c. Or a Mirage.
     
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