Nissan Ariya CUV BEV Concept

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] A possible 2021 production date should place the slow selling LEAF in the rearview as Nissan moves forward.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – January 7, 2020

    2021 Nissan Ariya all-electric CUV Concept

    LAS VEGAS, NV – The Consumer Electronic Show (CES) 2020 is becoming the go to show for many OEMs to highlight their way off future plans. Of all the presentations I watched or read about, Nissan’s made the most splash and practical sense because it was near term Concept to reality vs. pie-in-the-sky flying transportation drone systems or future low emissions cities.

    The Nissan Ariya Concept was introduced to the world at the Tokyo Auto Show in late of October of last year and made its North American debut at the Las Vegas CES 2020 trade show. As an all-new EV platform about the size of a Rogue, the zero-emission CUV will incorporate all of Nissan’s latest Intelligent Mobility.

    The Ariya Concept is an AWD CUV with single or twin electric motors, award-winning driver assistance technology, and a look that signals a complete reinvention of the brand's design.

    Inside, the new Nissan Ariya Concept features a premium cabin with high-tech features that feels more like a lounge than a conventional vehicle.

    Outside, the concept was brought to life via a clean sheet for a near term all electric vehicle. This includes the tie into the brands signature design language with electrified V-motion signature "shield" and rear light blades with short overhangs on both ends.

    The Ariya Concept is the embodiment of the brands electrified brand identity rebirth. Nissan Intelligent Mobility embodies electrification and vehicle intelligence providing a travel experience free of accidents and harmful emissions.

    Word on the street is this is coming a lot sooner than we think.

    2021 Nissan Ariya all-electric CUV Concept


    #Nissan #NissanCES
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  2. litesong

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  3. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I like the Leaf. It's just the right size , not too tall or long.
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  4. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Will Nissan stick with air cooling?
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  5. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Nissan air-cooled Leaf was designed for Japan, its slower vehicle speeds & easier drivers. The Leaf, placed in the hot southern U.S., with faster interstates, drivers that treat battery packs like they were cast-iron blocks of ICE metal, & demand heat-generating Super-charging, has been caught with in-adequate cooling methods.
    If the Leaf had a 64 kW-hr pack & me as the driver, I would treat the battery pack as a new technology that needs care (& slow time) to operate it. But, that is me, who is NOT like the rest of America, who believe if they aren't moving fast, they are not accomplishing anything.
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  6. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

  7. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Regarding the LEAF, it has seen better years in terms of U.S. sales...

    2019 - 12,365
    2018 - 14,715
    2017 - 11,230
    2016 - 14,006
    2015 - 17,269
    2014 - 30,200
    2013 - 22,610
    2012 - 9,819

    Nissan needs a true competitor and if they have the Ariya pack cooling designed correctly, this all-electric CUV platform could be in the right place at the right time. Range, performance, and traction battery longevity are all still big question marks however.

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  8. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    Nissan's ProPilot 2.0 slated for the Ariya will be able to autonomously lane change... I know that means little here to most so here are the very basic details.

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  9. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    Interesting detail - they have located the charging port below the driver's side mirror. I like the Leaf location, but this is my next favorite location. Some images show the same door on the right side, as well - so maybe they are following Audi?

    Last edited: Jan 13, 2020
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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Neil:

    That is by far the best angle to view the Ariya. Rumors about 300-miles of AER are out there as well.

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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    From the photo alone that could be ANYSUV. Tres generic. Ugly ? Some might think it's beautiful.
    I suppose Nissan had to do it , though.
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  12. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Nissan sets carbon neutral goal for 2050

    100% of all-new vehicle offerings in key markets to be electrified by the early 2030s

    2022 Nissan Ariya


    Nissan has set the goal to achieve carbon neutrality across the company's operations and the life cycle of its products by 2050.1 As part of this effort, by the early 2030s every all-new Nissan vehicle offering in key markets will be electrified!

    Its first push is not an updated LEAF but the previously reported on, Ariya BEV CUV.

    The all-new Ariya offers an estimated range of up to approximately 300 miles for the long range 2WD model while the all-electric drivetrain provides advantages including a spacious cabin. The compact powertrain made it possible for Nissan to install the climate control system under the hood allowing designers to utilize the whole length of the cabin without traditional obstructions such as a transmission tunnel.

    The Nissan Ariya's all-electric drivetrain is built around a FWD and AWD versions. Both Ariya front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive models offer a choice of 63 kWh or 87 kWh of usable battery capacity.

    The twin electric motor, AWD Ariya models feature Nissan's most advanced all-wheel control technology, e-4ORCE. The "e" in e-4ORCE.

    Ariya will also feature wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for seamlessly integration of your smartphone and the overall vehicle experience.

    The connectivity display is built around a 12.3” driver and 12.3” central display along a single horizon.

    The Nissan Ariya will go on sale in Japan this summer with U.S. availability to follow in late 2021. Pricing for the short range will start around $40,000.

    Nissan will pursue further innovations in electrification and manufacturing technology to make progress on the company's carbon neutrality goal in the following strategic areas:

    • Battery innovations including solid-state and related technologies to develop cost-competitive and more efficient EVs
    • Further development of Nissan's e-POWER electrified powertrains to achieve greater energy efficiency
    • Development of a battery ecosystem to support decentralized, onsite power generation for buildings with renewable energy sources -- Nissan anticipates increased collaboration with the energy sector to support the decarbonization of power grids
    • Manufacturing process innovations to support higher productivity in vehicle assembly, starting with the Nissan Intelligent Factory initiative
    Nissan's goal builds on its decades-long programs to reduce emissions and provide electric vehicle technologies that benefit the environment and society. The company's electrification and emissions reduction efforts support the aims of the U.N. Paris Agreement on climate change and global progress toward carbon neutrality by 2050.

    Nissan's ambition also expands upon past initiatives under the Nissan Green Program and the company's ongoing work to minimize the carbon footprint of its products and operations. The company introduced the world's first mass-market electric car, the Nissan LEAF, and has sold more than 500,000 of the zero-emission vehicle to date. Nissan also continues to work with industry coalitions and authorities to develop infrastructure and raise public awareness about the benefits of electric vehicles.

    With 100% of all-new vehicle offerings to be electrified in the key markets of Japan, China, the U.S. and Europe by the early 2030s, Nissan will also be among the leaders in driving the adoption of electric vehicle technology.

    Nissan believes the automotive industry can be a driving force in meeting global environmental and climate needs through a commitment to innovation and impact reduction by collaborating with authorities and partners worldwide. When combined with the expansion of renewable energy and charging infrastructure, vehicle electrification and sustainable operations can help accelerate the arrival of a carbon neutral future.

    Nissan Green Program at a Glance

    To realize its environmental philosophy "a Symbiosis of People, Vehicles and Nature," Nissan has promoted a series of midterm environmental action plans known collectively as the Nissan Green Program. Under the Nissan Green Program 2022, announced in November 2017, the company is focusing on four priorities as listed below.

    Climate change
    Promote the decarbonization of society through electrification, vehicle intelligence and innovative manufacturing.

    Resource Dependency

    Create a system that uses resources efficiently and sustainably, and promote services to use vehicles more effectively.

    Air quality

    Ensure cleaner emissions, create a comfortable in-cabin environment to protect human health, and reduce the impact on the ecosystem.

    Water scarcity

    Reduce water consumption and manage water quality in manufacturing.
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  13. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    The all-new 2023 Nissan Ariya electric crossover is getting closer to its upcoming U.S. on-sale date with the opening of a special reservation portal allowing future owners the opportunity to be one of the first to purchase the most advanced and connected Nissan vehicle ever.

    Four Nissan Ariya models will initially be available, each equipped with an advanced liquid-cooled 87/91 kWh Lithium-Ion battery (usable/actual battery capacity), CCS quick charge port rated at just 130 KW charging rate, available ProPILOT Assist 2.0, wireless Apple CarPlay and wired Android Auto, a lounge-like premium interior and Nissan Safety Shield 360.

    2023 Nissan Ariya


    Nissan also announced today the preliminary 2023 Ariya reservation model lineup, specifications and initial MSRP – which starts at $45,950 for the Venture+ front-wheel drive model. Pricing for additional Ariya models will be announced at a later date.

    Additionally, the first 10,000 reservations made before Jan. 31, 2022 will qualify for a two-year free EVgo membership plus $500 in charging credits upon purchase3. That's worth up to an estimated 5,000 miles of EV driving for the Ariya Venture+.4

    Ariya is the next production model to represent the company’s new electrified brand identity. Nissan has announced a target that more than 40 percent of its U.S. vehicle sales by 2030 will be fully electric, with even more to be electrified.

    2023 Nissan Ariya Trim(s) Retail Pricing
    • Venture+ FWD - 87 kWh usable battery, 238-hp and 221 lb-ft of torque with up to 300-miles AER for $45,950 USD
    • Evolve+ FWD - 87 kWh usable battery, 238-hp and 221 lb-ft of torque with up to 285-miles AER for $48,950 USD
    • Premiere FWD - 87 kWh usable battery, 238-hp and 221 lb-ft of torque with up to 285-miles AER for $53,450 USD
    • Platinum+ e-4ORCE AWD - 87 kWh usable battery, 389-hp and 442 lb-ft of torque with up to 265-mile AER for $58,950 USD
    The Ariya Premiere FWD is only available to customers who participate in the reservation program. It includes 19" alloys with unique aero wheel cover color treatment, illuminated Premiere kick plates and a Premiere grade emblem.

    The reservation process can be completed fully online:

    Customers visit Nissan Ariya Reserve, set up a MyNissan account, select their Ariya using the Nissan online vehicle configurator and place a $500 refundable deposit.

    Customers then select an EV-certified Nissan dealer to have their Ariya delivered to.

    After the vehicle is delivered to their dealer, customers can complete their purchase either online through Nissan@Home, or directly at the dealership.

    Once customers complete their purchase, they can choose to have their Ariya delivered to their home8 or pick it up at the dealership.

    Ariya deliveries will begin fall 2022, first for FWD models, followed by AWD models weeks later.

    Early conclusions? While it is a great looking CUV BEV, the high pricing and max 130 KW charge rate is going to make it a tough sell vs its competitors including Ford’s MachE (just 150 KW charging rate on it too) and the hard charging Korean offerings in the form of the just released 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 and upcoming 2022 Kia EV6.

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  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    I am not sure what the Ariya sales holdup is as it was described way back in late 2020 to go on sale in Japan in mid-2021, followed by the U.S. and Canada later in 2021. At the time, Nissan had hoped to sell it in the U.S. for around $40,000 USD. Maybe they were including the at the time, $7,500 Fed Tax credit to reduce the base Ariya price to a touch over $40k?

    2023 Nissan Ariya


    The new Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) severely limits the ability for any new owner to use the tax credit, let alone the maximum $7,500.

    A future Ariya customer will lose at least half of the maximum $7,500 due to its battery manufacture location and all because it is not manufactured in North America. It will be at a severe disadvantage to the VW ID.4 with at least a $3,750 Fed TC due to its manufacture location in Chattanooga, TN. The Mustang Mach-E also qualifies for at least half the credit since it is manufactured in Mexico. The EV6 and Ioniq 5 will also lose the full credit due to their manufacture outside the U.S.

    There are new pricing limits including $55,000 for sedans and $80,000 for SUVs and pickup trucks will also limit the deduction for many trims and some vehicles outright.

    Adding to the limitations, single filers are capped at a maximum taxable of $150,000, "head of household" at $225,000, and married filing jointly are capped at $300,000.

    Not relevant to this discussion on compact CUVs but relevant to the tax credit, the Tesla Model 3 RWD “may” once again regain the full $7,500 tax credit since it is manufactured in the U.S. It depends on the battery materials sourcing.

    2023 Tesla Model 3

    The RWD may be eligible for the entire $7,500 Fed TC once again.​

    In any case, the Ariya holdup could have been component sourcing – supply constraints, outright costs leading to a loss for each vehicle, or Covid just screwed up Nissan’s new automobile release cadence? One other possibility is a possible upgrade to the one shortfall that stands out. The OEM 130 KW DCFC max charging capability. Maybe, just maybe they will boost that to at least 150 KW and hopefully even up to 170 to 180 KW like the 2023 VW ID.4.

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  15. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Wishful thinking? :D. I don't know if all EV manufacturers understand the EV user perspective of fastest charging possible for the battery size and chemistry.
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  16. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    2-years late but it is finally ... well, almost here. Nissan released final pricing for the 2023 Ariya crossover. They are up about $1,240 from the previous update.

    2023 Nissan Ariya


    The 2023 Nissan Ariya goes on sale late this fall (FWD models only) and offers a choice between FWD and e-4ORCE AWD with a long range and standard range battery option. MSRP for the 2023 Nissan Ariya start at $43,190. Customers who participated in the Ariya reservation program will still be able to purchase their Ariya at the special reservation MSRP.

    2023 Ariya buyers can choose from six well-equipped grades, so they can pick the model that best matches their driving style and needs. Ariya models come equipped with either a standard range 63 kWh battery or 87 kWh long range battery of usable capacity with up to 304 miles of range and power output ratings ranging from 214 to 389 horsepower.

    In addition to FWD models, Ariya will be available with Nissan’s latest AWD technology - e-4ORCE, an advanced, 100% electric AWD system that optimizes power output and braking for exceptional smoothness and stability on nearly all road surfaces with a nearly 50/50 weight distribution. Ariya e-4ORCE models will be available in early 2023.

    Standing tall and ready to rock and roll.​

    Starting Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Prices for the 2023 Nissan Ariya:
    • Engage FWD w/ 63 kWh battery - $43,190 <-- Forget about this one w/ the small pack.
    • Engage e-4ORCE w/ 63 kWh battery - $47,190 <-- Forget about this one too.

    • Venture+ FWD w/ 87 kWh battery - $47,190
    • Evolve+ FWD w/ 87 kWh battery - $50,190
    • Empower+ FWD w/ 87 kWh battery - $53,690
    • Premiere FWD w/ 87 kWh battery - $54,690

    • Engage+ e-4ORCE AWD w/ 87 kWh battery - $51,190
    • Evolve+ e-4ORCE AWD w/ 87 kWh battery - $54,190
    • Platinum+ e-4ORCE AWD w/ 87 kWh battery - $60,190
    D&H = $1,295

    2023 Nissan Ariya

    One of the better looking interiors in the EV space.​

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  17. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Ah, they make sure that I can’t afford it.​
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  18. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Nissan’s EV Carefree+

    [​IMG] EV Carefree+ provides additional charging and maintenance benefits to help Leaf and Ariya owners make the switch to electric easier.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – Nov. 17, 2022


    Nissan is making it simpler to switch to an electric vehicle with the launch of a new customer care initiative, EV Carefree+, announced today at Los Angeles Auto Show’s AutoMobility LA. The customer-focused initiative provides Nissan Ariya and LEAF buyers an all-inclusive package to give EV owners a positive experience.

    As one of the most comprehensive offerings in the industry for electric vehicle buyers, EV Carefree+ provides additional charging and maintenance benefits to help owners make the switch to electric easily. EV Carefree+ combines four pillars of support:

    1. EV Charging Assistance: Nissan is providing buyers or lessees of the 2023 Ariya and LEAF with complimentary charging offers on one of the nation’s largest public fast charging networks, EVgo. Ariya buyers and lessees receive one year of unlimited public charging with EVgo, while LEAF buyers and lessees receive a $100 charging credit with EVgo. In addition, Nissan provides owners with a seamless home charging solution in collaboration with Wallbox. Nissan also has the largest network of high-speed EV chargers at U.S. dealerships.

    2. Included Maintenance: Scheduled maintenance for Nissan EVs is included for three years or 36,000 miles. All service is performed by Nissan-trained technicians at EV-certified dealerships. A Tire Hazard Protection plan is also included, keeping owners covered in case of tire damage.

    3. EV Battery Health Assurance: Every Nissan EV comes with an 8-year/100,000-mile battery warranty. When it’s time for service, Nissan’s network of experienced EV technicians provides comprehensive multi-point, EV-specific inspection reports.

    4. EV Roadside Assistance: EV owners are covered by 24/7 Roadside Assistance, including out-of-charge towing to the nearest Nissan dealership, charging location or even the owner’s residence. Roadside Assistance coverage is active for three years or 36,000 miles from purchase.
    EV Carefree+ will also be available for future Nissan electric vehicles. As part of the company’s Ambition 2030 plan, Nissan has committed to 40% of its U.S. sales being electric by 2030, with many more to be electrified.
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  19. WriConsult

    WriConsult Super Moderator

    Maybe the holdup was finding a supplier for that hideous rose-gold paint?
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  20. litesong

    litesong litesong

    Yeah, I don’t like the colors for Hyundai Ioniq 5, either. They aren’t hideous, but somehow could be a lot better.

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