Level3 DC CCS Liquid Cooled Charging Cables? Electrify America Has the Answer for That

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] Pop Sci’s Best of What’s New reveals something very interesting pertaining to our mission.

    Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – November 27, 2018


    Popular Science has named Electrify America’s electric vehicle (EV) charging system an award winner for its 2018 “Best of What’s New” in the Automotive category.

    With a focus on the electric vehicle, Electrify America’s charging systems have a range in power from 50 kilowatts (kW) up to 350 kW which can add up to 20 miles/minute or range to an electric vehicle.

    The chargers have been custom-designed by Electrify America and have several advanced features, including liquid-cooled cables. This is the first time that liquid-cooled CCS1 charging cables have received certification for a 150/350 kW DC Fast Charger. The cooling is a key factor in enabling higher-amperage charging without a significant increase in the cable thickness for charging power at and above 150 kW from 350 amps.

    With a much smaller cable cross section than the traditional high-powered cable option, these cooled cables are thinner, more flexible, lighter and easier for consumers to handle than the standard 350A capable copper cables when charging their EV.

    All charging stations offer a Japanese standard CHAdeMO (50 kW) connector, plus additional dual-handle chargers with CCS1 (50 to 150 kW or 350 kW) connectors, ensuring that all fast charging capable cars will be able to use the Electrify America stations. The Electrify America system will offer DC Fast Chargers ranging from 50 kW to 150 kW for metropolitan locations, and an L2 AC charger also will be offered at a majority of metro DC fast charging stations to accommodate plug-in hybrids and non-DC-charge capable EVs. Highway stations will offer four to ten chargers with CCS1 connectors, while metropolitan charging stations will have three to six.

    Electrify America selected ABB, BTC Power, Efacec and Signet to jointly deploy its new ultra-fast electric vehicle (EV) charging systems. The charging equipment suppliers are sharing the delivery of more than 2,000 chargers across 484 stations in the U.S. Electrify America’s ultra-fast charging systems utilize both HUBER+SUHNER and ITT Cannon high power charging (HPC) systems which features a much smaller cable cross section than the traditional high-powered cable option.

    To date, Electrify America has already installed numerous CCS Level3 DC Fast Chargers with the full build out scheduled to include 2,000 chargers across 484 sites in 17 metropolitan areas and on highways in 39 states, as part of its Cycle One investment. All the chargers will be “installed or under development” by the end of June 2019.

    Nov. 27, 2018 – Current Electrify America CC Charing Station Locations


    Electrify America Level3 DC Fast Charging Introductory Pricing

    Electrify America DC fast charging stations display clear, up-front pricing. Electrify America charging will include the following elements: $1.00 session fee + per minute charging cost + idle fee of $0.40/minute (if applicable). Our introductory charging cost pricing is $0.30 to $0.35 per minute of charging.
  2. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    350 KW -- ? --- There must be better batteries on the way. Lots of money being invested that points to fairly significant battery development in the 2020 - 2025 time frame (?).

    i.e. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-aims-solid-state-battery-production-2025

    Add to the list of SS investors, -- all the Japanese auto manufacturers, Hyundai, Dyson, Caterpillar, BMW, Panasonic, Sanyo etc... etc... etc... Makes you wonder if the first production "trial" batteries/vehicles are coming in the next couple years.

    Chart in this article shows investment increasing over the past 5 years, 1.6 Billion in 2018
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  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Carcus:

    Future proofing the best that they can I am quite sure.

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  4. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    I think so,.. but taken in aggregate, it seems like more than "Let's keep a finger in this cause we can't afford not to" ,. . it looks a little more like a "this is happening" kind of mind set. Especially if you think Ford and GM's pullback from cars (i.e. hitting the reset) belongs in this.


    And, of course, it doesn't have to be solid state. Other chemistries are showing promise.
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  5. Elixer

    Elixer Well-Known Member

    350KW charging is definitely a game-changer if the car's battery can accept it. Plugging in for 10 minutes and getting 200 miles of range or 15 minutes and getting 300 miles of range would certainly make traveling long distances in electric vehicles more practical.

    A Tesla on a supercharger is currently only capable of doing 170 miles in 30 minutes for comparison. Stopping on the interstate every 200-250 miles is typical for me when traveling long distances, so using a Tesla would slow me down greatly versus gas currently. When 350KW charging is possible, it won't.
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi All:

    San Francisco Premium Outlets is California’s first location for Electrify America’s 350 KW Charing Stations!


    The 10 DC fast chargers are now up and running for public use. The charging site features eight 150 kW chargers and two 350 kW chargers. The 350 kW chargers are capable of recharging an electric vehicle at 20 miles/minute and adding 200 miles of range in just 10 minutes.

    The 10 Electrify America chargers are co-located with 20 Tesla Superchargers.

    America will install charging systems at Simon locations nationwide including 17 centers in California, with 95 additional chargers.


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