Bought a blue hatchback to replace my blue hatchback

Discussion in 'General' started by seftonm, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Oh crap. What happened? I've got an appointment on Wednesday for the software update.
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  2. Markus

    Markus Active Member

    Two things work. The backup camera and the automatic climate control. When driving the screen shows the last position of the back up camera guidelines on a black background. Hope the replacement does the trick.
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2018
  3. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Do you have a copy of your receipt showing the TSB number? My dealer wasn't sure if there is a bulletin for Canadian Civics or not.
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  4. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Never mind, it sounds like they found it and did the update.
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  5. Markus

    Markus Active Member

    Did it work?
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  6. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Yes, it looks like it worked. I get the fuel consumption calculation for the last few trips, and everything else still seems to work normally.
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  7. Markus

    Markus Active Member

    Good for you. I go back tomorrow.
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  8. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    It’s a nice feature. I have mine A reset on every trip and B reset when I fill up.

    /too bad Honda took so long for a fix, but at least they did eventually get a “round tuit”
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  9. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    I took a drive last month to the west coast of Vancouver Island. I decided to go through Yellowstone Park on the way there and drove through the Beartooth Pass, that section of road was one of the most fun drives I've had in quite a while. Lots of good scenery in Yellowstone and on the west coast, I definitely need to go again. Driving through the mountains is so scenic and enjoyable compared to the endless prairie and farm fields around here.


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  10. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Mike:

    Beautiful!!! :D

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  11. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Very nice! Good car for that trip. I've done Yellowstone in an Odyssey, not so much fun, but still fantastic views.
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  12. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Living in SE Idaho, I've been to Yellowstone a few times but generally I don't go further north than the Tetons. Lots of spectacular scenery on the East and West side. Next time you go to Yellowstone be sure to check out the Teton area too.
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  13. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Definitely, I'll have to do that!
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  14. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Nice. I've been in a few national parks , but mostly Colorado , Utah , and California.
    I'd like to make it to Yellowstone one day.
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  15. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    My last summer mountain trip....

    I drove my civic aggressively at times -- pushed it about as far as I dared on winding mountain roads, ... small displacement turbocharger +stick + thin warm air = IIRC, about 47 mpg. I was still carrying 91 E0 from the lowlands, .. so that didn't hurt.

    / I do like the blue paint and black wheels .. looks sharp.
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  16. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    Update two years after purchase: I've averaged 36 mpg since I bought the car. Nothing else in this class seems to be able to match the combination of efficiency and power that this Honda 1.5T provides. I've driven a few other small turbos recently and the Honda seems to act a little differently. It feels like it tries very hard to stay out of boost until it has no option but to spool up to provide the power that the driver is asking for. This may contribute to its efficiency advantage over other small turbo engines, which feel like they are always running a little boost when the driver accelerates.

    Aside from the efficiency / power combination, the handling is very good and the hatch is very practical. I'm planning on taking a trip west to Oregon and then south along the coast to Sacramento, and am looking forward to some winding mountain and forest roads.

    Unfortunately, this has been the least reliable car that I've owned. Nothing has left me dead on the side of the road yet, but the issues have started to dull some of its appeal. In the past two years it's gone to the dealer for:
    • Gear whine from front end. I suspected that it was the transmission or differential, dealer tracked the sound down to the transmission. Dealer contacted Honda, who said that they have replaced transmissions in a few other cars with similar symptoms, but that did not eliminate the sound. Honda does not have a solution right now, so this is being considered as normal operation for now. The sound isn't a big deal to me, my main concern was just to ensure that there wasn't something wrong with the transmission or differential.
    • Rain sensing wipers don't wipe consistently. I did three trips to the dealer to look at this and they tried a few things, but nothing seemed to help. I eventually disabled the rain sensing function by unplugging the sensor, now I'm back to variable intermittent wipers. I think I prefer the variable intermittent over rain sensing anyway.
    • Clunk from front driver side when driving over rough roads. Six trips to two different dealers now, and this one still hasn't been solved. Most of my front driver's side suspension has been replaced twice, along with a driveshaft. The dealer is stumped and have called Honda to help with diagnosis. Waiting for a reply from Honda to find out what the next steps will be.
    I have 5000 miles left before the bumper to bumper warranty expires. I've thought a little about buying an extended warranty, but haven't come to a conclusion on that yet.
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  17. Carcus

    Carcus Well-Known Member

    Might be time to go "old school" .. If it were me I'd do the "bounce and listen" diagnostics, .. but don't bounce on any of that super thin metal/plastic. Probably have to bounce on the structure underneath the hood (a 200+ pounder either side of the radiator. ,,,maybe another centered ) .. 2 or three big guys with some rhythm ought to get a clunk out of it.

    /if bouncing the whole front doesn't get a clunk, .. i'd try one side, then the other.
    // I'd look hard with a bright light, .. it's possible somebody left something (a tool?)
    /// another option is to just bypass Honda for the diagnostic (not the fix, I'd tell the independent that up front), find an independent that's been around for a while, ... somebody should be able to figure this one out, .. six trips to the dealer is ridiculous.

    "If no clues are forthcoming, it's time to go hands-on. It'll be helpful if you can get a friend, preferably a hefty one, to assist. For front-end noises, pop the hood, and have your comrade press down on the bumper or fender, then release and lift repeatedly until the suspension is really working. While he does this, listen carefully and use a good light to examine the upper strut or shock mounts and the control arm joints. If you hear anything untoward, but can't pinpoint the source, place the end of a broomstick against your ear and touch the other end to suspected areas. This works almost as well as a mechanic's stethoscope. Nothing obvious? Then lie down and look underneath with your light, even though your friend's stamina may be taxed by this time."

    Fixing Suspension Clunks And Rattles
    By Bob Freudenberger
    Mar 29, 2006

    ////add -- if you WERE concerned about a whining transmission (if it is the transmission), .. I'd be tempted to send a transmission fluid sample off for analysis (i.e. Blackstone Laboratory or similar),... they ought to be able to give you some insight.
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  18. seftonm

    seftonm Veteran Staff Member

    That's a good idea about the transmission fluid sample. I was actually planning to change the fluid this weekend, I'll have to look into what it costs to send a sample in. I don't see many reports about manual transmission failures on Civics, so I'm not too concerned about it anymore.

    I've tried having a few friends bounce the car up and down but haven't been able to recreate the suspension clunk. It only happens on sharper impacts, like expansion joints, potholes, and washboard roads.
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  19. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Just as the art of shifting for yourself is dying out ( dead already?) , I think that automakers have forgotten how to
    make a manual transmission that lasts. My 89 Civic Si had its transmission made in Japan , almost everything else was from USA and Canada.
    Not a single problem , noise , or reduced functionality from the transmission in 229K miles. Maybe they don't care too much about pleasing a
    tiny percentage of owners. I'm still planning to buy something with a manual , either a Mirage or a CB300R.
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  20. Trollbait

    Trollbait Well-Known Member

    Does the car have selectable drive modes?
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