2017 Toyota Prius Prime Wins 2017 World Green Car Award

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG] The award winning 2017 Prius Prime is now available for an even more astounding price!

    [​IMG]Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – April 12, 2017

    2017 Toyota Prius Prime PHEV-25 - $27,985 to start including the $885 D&H charge while offering 25 miles of all-electric range, a 55/53 mpgUS city/highway rating as a standard hybrid and a world beating 133 MPGe rating in blended Electric and Hybrid Electric mode.

    Along with our first drive at the short lead, 2017 Toyota Prius Prime: Price + Content + Efficiency = WOW!!!, did you know there is a $1,000 Toyota rebate on top of the stunning price?

    As a recap, the base Prius Prime costs $27,985 + TTL. D&H fee rose by $20 since its launch late last year. Owners are also eligible for a $4,500 Fed Tax Credit and numerous state incentives including $1,500 state tax rebate in California, Massachusetts and Rhode Island make it a steal. This brings it down to $21,985 for those that qualify. But wait, that is not all. There is also $1k on the hood from Toyota and you should be able to knock off another $600 to $800 off from the dealer. Is a 2017 Toyota Prius Prime with the standard Safety Sense-P, P stands for Pedestrian detection, Radar CC, and FCW/Auto Braking for just $20,300 USD +TTL? SOB what a deal! :D

    New York, NY – At this year’s New York International Auto Show (NYIAS), the 2017 Toyota Prius Prime was bestowed the honor of being the 2017 World Green Car.

    This is the second consecutive year Toyota earned the World Green Car title. Last year the award went to the Toyota Mirai.

    2017 Toyota Prius Prime

    A great way to skip the pump, reduce emissions, and increase your financial wherewithal.​

    The Prius Prime was chosen from an initial entry list of 12 new vehicles from all over the world. Tailpipe emissions, fuel consumption, and use of a major advanced power plant technology (beyond engine componentry), aimed specifically at increasing the vehicle's environmental responsibility, were all taken into consideration.

    Toyota is no stranger to the World Car Awards program, now in its 13th year. In addition to the Mirai’s win last year, the Toyota Prius earned “Top Three in the World” status in 2010 for both the World Green Car and the overall World Car of the Year categories. The Toyota Harrier Hybrid was the 2006 World Green Car of the year recipient.

    Vehicles in all award categories are selected and voted on by an international jury panel comprising 75 top-level automotive journalists from 23 countries around the world.

    It offers low emissions, efficiency beyond any other automobile available today, offers a choice of driving off the plug or the gas tank, it is safe, and it is also a better deal than the steal it was when first released last year. What more could you want from an automobile today? Well, maybe that rear middle seat and removal of the gloss white plastic inserts inside but I digress... ;)
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  2. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    I'm going to work on covering those white parts when I get the car.

    Edit 1/25/2018 - I never did get around to covering the white plastic. On the two-tone interior, the lighter part of the dark and light color scheme makes the white less obvious. Good rationalization? :) I was thinking of using vinyl wrap, but was fearful of the concave curved surfaces. So another alternative was to remove the parts and paint them. Maybe in 2-3 years when the wife moves on to another new car. :)
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2018
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  3. joshdurston

    joshdurston Rogue Canadian

    Nice car, two things...
    1. This should just be the Prius (regular Prius is obsolete IMHO with advent of the PHEV Prime).
    2. Why isn't this for sale in Canada? Especially Ontario with our generous rebates.
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  4. msantos

    msantos Eco Accelerometrist

    Hi All.

    Long time no chat.

    The Prime is finally available throughout Canada. I ordered mine on the 15th of January after a full year of waiting for the darn thing. :)
    I will have to wait for it though... at the moment it appears I'll take 4-5 months for mine to arrive.

    On a side note:
    Toyota was also able to assure me that the traction battery warmer also works when plugged-in to an L1 outlet which is great since I do not have to add another L2 to the garage.


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  5. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Hi Manuel , welcome back. I'm sure you will love that Prime !
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  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    HI Manuel:

    While you are waiting... :)


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  7. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    These wheels look nicer, as does the color rendition. Blue magnetism is too bright for me, so if the above is the same color under different lighting/color balance conditions, oh well. :)
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  8. msantos

    msantos Eco Accelerometrist

    Well, for me it was actually a bit of a toss-up between the Prime and the Clarity. At the last minute, the Honda dealership declined to order a Clarity for me. Why?
    Well, Honda Canada requires that dealers install two L2 "charging stations" before they can sell and service these cars.

    So much for the Clarity for me. It also did not help that Honda (unlike Toyota) was not very forthcoming answering some of my more technical questions. ;)

    Anyhow, the blue magnetism looks great but my daughter suggested a white exterior this time and that is what we ordered. You can almost tell who's car this is likely to be in a couple of years time :D


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  9. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    :D:D smart girl/woman... and you're a push-over! :)
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  10. C_ita

    C_ita New Member

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  11. Guess I can't take the survey
  12. msantos

    msantos Eco Accelerometrist

    Anyhow, got my Prime Advanced delivered ahead of schedule roughly a month ago. Apparently, the folks in Japan were cranking them out at a much faster rate than what I told initially. I am certainly not complaining about getting it earlier as I got a chance to watch it work in -20C temps too.

    Impressions so far:
    - Smooth, quiet and much better handling car than the Gen 3 liftbacks could ever dream of being.
    - Toyota's rating for this car is seriously underestimated. Advertised with a 40KM range (25 miles), but really able to do more. Right now the displayed range estimate before a regular commute is 52 KM (32 miles).
    - I bought only one Prime because my greater concern was the cargo deficit compared to the regular 4th gen. This proved to be a false assumption in my case. The approximately 20 cubic feet of cargo is actually pretty usable and practical even for a trip to home depot to haul 10x8 foot pressure treated fence boards.
    - This thing is loaded to the gills with lots of good and rather critical (IMO) safety equipment. And it works pretty well with easily configurable nagging alerts.
    - The 11 inch display is not the nightmare I expected. The matte screen actually handles glare quite well and it is nowhere as laggy as I expected especially on colder days.
    - The Hud is actually useful in this car since one rarely needs to get the eyes off the road to look at the traditional prius dash centered instrumentation.
    - The darn thing will lock itself in EV and stay there no matter how much you floor it. This is awesome for city driving when compared to other plug-ins.
    - Did I say the heat pump is awesome? An EV or plug-in that does not have one is a lesser car is my honest opinion. In colder days one still takes a hit in range (5-7 km range for warming driver only). The heated steering wheel and seats are an even better alternative, however.

    Things I wish were improved in future revisions:
    - Add a few more Kwh to the pack's capacity. I suspect this would make its real-world range even more competitive.
    - Allow the engine block heater to warm up when temps go below -10C and plugged into an L2 EVSE station. It hurts to see the engine turn on and stay on longer until it completes the early warm-up stages. Right now the block heater uses a separate plug in the front of the car.
    - Add Android auto support. PLEASE!!!! The navigation software is OK, but the updates are a royal pain in the neck.
    - Give me the option to play videos while the car is in motion. If not, then give me Android Auto.
    - Add safety connect for Canadian prime owners. Right now I cannot schedule my charges and condition via my phone. Totally absurd.
    - Add center caps to the OEM wheels in case we want to dump the wheel covers. Had to purchase mine from a Japanese re-seller just to have the option.
    - Add heated seats for the rear passengers and relocate the two-stage buttons to a better location (center console).
    - Add memory seat settings at least for the driver's seat.
    - Lastly, stop depleting the battery pack when conditioning the car and while it is plugged in. This is annoying as heck.

    Anyway, having lots of fun with it while still being measurably more efficient than my 2014 Model S was. Just for giggles, I am getting as low as 12-10kwh/100km efficiency while the model S rarely went below 20 Kwh/100Km.



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  13. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Super Moderator

    Really good review. Every single review I see of Prius and Camry mention the lack of Android Auto/Car Play. I know it's hard to swallow your pride, but come on Toyota! Someone has a better idea than you.
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