Almost new smarts dirt cheap

Discussion in 'Automotive Hot Deals' started by Blackbelt, Nov 24, 2016.

  1. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    If you can fit the limitations of a smart fortwo(obviously i am talking about it's 2 person capacity), there are some smokin good deals out there. Daimler owns car2go, and for whatever reason(i am guessing their expansion plans didn't quite work out), there are a bunch of smarts that were supposed to go into service with cars2go that ended up at the auction. They are all equipped the same. They are all white with a silver tridion. They all have steel wheels, navigation radio, heated leather seats, and power windows. They are 2015's with less than 100 miles on them. Most have a 2015 in service date,m which means the warranty went into effect then, but with a 4/50 warranty there is still plenty of factory warranty left.
    Best part is the price. Depending on the dealer, i have seen them for between $7900-$8900. While the smart does have it's drawbacks, i can tell you from having owned 4 of them, reliability s not an issue. All of mine have been as reliable as any Honda or Toyota out there. Plus they are cheap to maintain, with a factory mandated 10K mile oil change interval with 3.5 quarts of Mobil one synthetic.
    Forget the EPA ratings, my wife averages 43 with hers using zero hypermiling techniques. I was easily over 50 when i had my 2012. If i hand't just bought my 2014 Prius C, i would be all over one of these.
    Check it out!
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  2. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    That's a sweet deal.
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  3. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    They are still out there.
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  4. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi BlackBelt:

    That is a smokin hot deal! I liked them too. :)

  5. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    To continue on the economy vein;
    The used Leaf prices continue to decline.
    Off lease only, a used car dealer in Florida has 38 as on today 12/4. They have a 2013 "S" with 22K miles on it for $6999. 2015's with mileage in the 20's for 7999 and 8999!!
    Also, i have seen the C-Max out there for some good prices. A local dealership here in W PA has 6 of them, all 2013's selling in the $10K range with miles in the 30's.
    In addition, the electric smarts continue to drop. I am seeing a lot of them in the 6000 range, with 2015's in the high 7's-low 8's.
    This is such a great time to purchase BEV's or any smaller vehicle. Horrible time to be buying trucks and SUV's, which is why so many of my fellow citizens are flocking to them. They can have them. Leasing my RAM hemi for 2 years taught me that i don't like them, and the fact that i only put 8K miles on it the 2 years i had it proves how little i liked it.
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  6. Prozac

    Prozac Well-Known Member

    Blackbelt, I completely agree with your statement that this is the best time to purchase electrics, I would even add hybrids for that matter. Just last year I ended up picking up a 2011 Honda CRZ for $6500. I will admit, it had 92000 miles on it, but otherwise it has been a fantastic vehicle. At the time, that price was below NADA wholesale numbers. My wife is using to go back and forth to her job and says it reminds her a lot of her old Eagle Talon, but updated for the times. She gets roughly 36 mpgs, but only has a 5 mile commute where the return trip is all up hill to the tune of about 800 feet. If I take the same car, I have seen anywhere from 48 to 55 mpgs, but I also have a 22 mile commute.

    On a side note, if I end up retiring and we stay in the local area, we have been discussing something along the lines of a Volt or Leaf. The only problem with the Leaf is that my wife thinks they are "ugly", lol.
  7. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Blackbelt, that was my experience with a truck too. I bought a used Mazda pickup in the early '90s and absolutely hated it. It was gutless, handled terribly, braked badly, got bad gas mileage, and was hard to see out of. Worst of all, it had little storage for the stuff I carried most of the time. You couldn't put stuff in the bed because it would disappear. People would throw their trash in my bed when I parked in a parking lot.

    It's the perfect storm for hybrid buyers:

    1. Low gas prices
    2. Economy is slowing and subprime auto credit bubble is bursting
    3. US dollar is soaring
    4. Toyota released a brand new hybrid that's so ugly you need dark glasses to look at it.
    5. Hyundai wants to under price as well as outperform Toyota's Prius with their new Ioniq. Meanwhile, Toyota dealers have to practically pay customers to take brand new Prii off their lots. Oops!
    6. Dealers are already selling used demo Ioniqs in UK sharply discounted.
    7. Shipping rates are dirt cheap--especially across the Pacific thanks to vastly underutilized capacity.

    I'll be more than happy to swoop in and snatch an Ioniq from Hyundai if they stop draggin their butts and get them over here before Trump bans all things foreign.
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2016
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  8. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    I was recently car shopping with a friend. My local Ford dealer had several C-Max's. A mix of HEV's and PHEV's. 2013-2015. All well equipped. Almost all of them had under 60,000 miles, with most in the 30,000-40,000 range. The prices for any of them ranged between $13,000 and $15,000. My friend ended up getting a nice 2014 Escape 2wd. Mid level trim, EcoBoost, and lots of gadgets with 33,000 miles for $14,000. Now is certainly the time to buy a low mileage late model vehicle if you can afford one.
  9. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Hey -$9000 for a genuine German car
    and easy to park
    If I was in the market...

    PS What is a TRI DION?
    PPS-Remember the YUGO-$3995- mid 1980's-probably $10,000 in today's $
    It was a POS of course-not a modern Deutchmobile with modern safety features
    Or the Chevette-
    My Late wife paid $4995+TTL for a somewhat loaded-ish one with actual fabric seats ac chrome bumpers-decent car
    I think Wayne bought an EXTREME CHEAPO SCOOTER VERSION- painted bumper vinyl seat covers stick on decals-for $3995 of so-perhaps his was a 1978
    Anyway this Smart is !000x the Yugo and perhaps 10X the Chevette(20X THE SCOOTER)
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2016
  10. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    The Yugo was $3995 in 1986 with no options and without destination. That's just over $8800 in today's money. No radio, no A/C, four speed manual, and a 1.1 liter engine with a 40k mile timing belt interval. Add options and you could add 50% to the sticker price. Hyundai was the same back then - Excel for $4995* ** *** That price had more stars than Grauman's theater. Add destination, add a radio, get a 5 speed in place of the 4 speed or go for the automatic, add A/C, get the sedan instead of the hatch, and that $4995 was just over $7000 - $15500 in today's money, and right inline with what the Accent sells for today. Some things never change.
  11. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Yep Prozac., i agree about this being a great time to buy a hybrid, which is why i just bought my 2014 Prius C. 22K miles with still almost a year of factory warranty left for $13K. I also know how difficult things can get when the wife plays the "ugly" card..LOL She HATES the Prius, but LOVES the "C".
    Jay i have not been paying any attention to the Ioniq. I am going to pay more attention going forward.
    08, my co-worker grabbed on of the C-maxs at the local dealer over the weekend. He showed it to me yesterday. I was very impressed Hell of a nice car for under $11K with only 33K miles on it.
    Charlie, the "tridion safety cell" is M-B's marketing term for the built in roll cage/safety cell that the smart is built around. WHen you see the area that is a different color that runs above the doors, then right behind them, then right below them, that's what they call the "tridion". This shows it pretty well
    I remember the Yugo well. I almost traded in my 3 year old VW GTi on one. Thankfully the dealer was greedy(imagine that) and we couldn't agree on a price. I do remember the Chevette and the Chevette Scooter. Wife looked at a new one before we were married.
    When one considers the technology and engineering that is contained in the smart, to pick up those "new" ones for $9K is incredible. Fuel injection, stability control, traction control, Air conditioning, power windows and locks, navigation system, heated leather seats, plus more. What a bargain in today's new car market!
  12. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    Except the reliability of current Hyundai models is much higher than that of the Excel. Everyone I knew with an Excel ended up junking it before 100,000 miles.
  13. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Yes the old excel and yugo were terrible. I read a very interesting book entitled
    The Yugo: The rise and fall of the worst car in history.
    It was a fun read and had a lot of background info on Malcolm Bricklin. It also had a new Yugo joke at the beginning of every chapter. For example;
    Q. How do you double the value of a Yugo?
    A. Fill it's gas tank.
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  14. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Yugo-worst car in history-hmmmm- might be right
    But we had 2 MG1100's(1964 or so) they actually were really really fun-probably decently engineered
    BUT the points NEVER wore out
    They literally BROKE IN HALF at 1000 mile intervals- yeah real PRINCE OF DARKNESS stuff
    But in truth they were 100x the car the Yugo was-with real wood dashes and real toggle switches
    Just like James Bond's Bentley-no kidding -in my 15 yo mind I pictured it as somehow comparable to his Bentley(not sure if it was in one of the Bond movies) but yeah MG1100 = BENTLEY in my mind because of the cool toggle switches and real wood dash(or convincing fake wood)
    In one book it described a toggle switch activated supercharger in the Bentley(which voided warranty)
    I daydreamed about having one in the MG1100-despite blowing one engine without supercharger-yeah WOT 84mph on speedo(maybe doing 75 or so)

    The chevette was a decent little car-the timing belt broke-30,000 miles-but no interference despite the RADICAL CAM (yeah joke)
    It ran fine-25 mpg city driven normally-perhaps 5-10 mpg less than a comparable Corolla-but .6x the price( many japanese cars sold for 1.5 MSRP back then when you factor in various dealer "installed" crapola -bottle of wax etc as detail package-decals as appearance upgrade)
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