Week of January 25 to January 31, 2016 (Nat'l Avg price $1.826)

Discussion in 'The Daily Grind' started by Gord, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Welcome to the grind :D

    The national average gas price is still plummeting, it's dropped another 6.8¢ to $1.826.
    Gas is 20.9¢ lower than this time last year.
    Diesel is approaching the $2 mark, down 6.3¢ at $2.087, 75.7¢ lower than this time last year.
    Diesel is 14.3% higher than regular.

    Still no commute for me - this is the car pooler's final week of commuting that he owed me.

    Edit: Only just notice I'd left the year as 2015 :oops:
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2016
  2. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 27 deg F , wind SSE 7. 34.3 miles/62.5 * .93 = 58.12 MPG. Tank is up to 320.9 miles/59.8 * .93 = 55.61 MPG. It may get up to 40 F today , then rain turning to snow overnight. Fun.
  3. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    I promised Jason I'd give a breakdown of UK gas and tax - here goes:

    Current Average price = 102.19p/litre = $5.503/GallUS
    Current exchange rate: 1.00 GBP = 1.42260 USD
    Gas cost: $1.436/GallUS
    Duty + VAT: $4.038/GallUS

    So 73.4% of the UK petrol price is currently tax:eek:

    The percentage has been climbing as the gas price has dropped as there is a fixed duty of $3.121 on every gallon plus VAT of 20% on top of that.

    How does US car insurance compare to the UK? I am just in the process of renewing my wife's for the Jazz/Fit and it's around $240/year.
  4. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Our insurance runs about twice that (~300 US), for each car, the Fit and the Odyssey. We're the right age, with reasonable cars, and a clean driving history. Anything else would give us higher rates, with teenage boys being easily double or more.

    52.8 / 9.2 - to school and work this morning with a warm spell - 53 F.

    Tank 50.6 / 48, Full+.
  5. Die2self

    Die2self Saving more by using less!

    That is about what we pay more or less for insurance. There are lots of options you can choose to have or do without that can influence the price. We care full coverage on our vehicles (1 because we are still paying them off, 2 because we don't have the savings to cover the loses if we were to have one in a wreck even if they are payed off).
    So the actual price of a gallon of dino juice (90%) with corn juice (10%) added and taxes here is about what you would have to pay just for 1 gallon of gas there (without taxes or anything added). Wow, that is a lot of tax on transportation. I really hope that you roads are in excellent shape with all those taxes. From your grind notes it sounds like they are always working on the roads (can be good and bad).

    In Missouri our Tax rate on Fuel is 17.30 cents per Gallon some of the lowest in the country that coupled with the close proximity to pipelines mean there are less distribution costs. Today I saw prices in the area from $1.419 to $1.439 /gal for E10.

    - 49.8 / 13.0 miles (26F NW@11)
    FCD = 48.1 (+0.2)

    This morning with school drop off:
    - 53.4 / 13.1 miles (51F S@20 gusting to 30) nice tail wind, but nasty cross wind through town. 20 degrees warm and a tail wind = 10 MPG better
    FCD = 48.6 (+0.5) lots of P&G without the need for heat or lights

    3.67 gals converted
    175.5 miles
  6. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    I just paid 1.45 the other day with my Sam's Club membership 5c discount.
  7. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks for the replies Jason (our roads could be a lot better) and Andrew.
    What other costs do you incur, I guess it must vary by state - we also have an annual tax for each car which varies from 0 to $$$'s. My Audi is only ~$28 :D but the Jazz/Fit is ~$150 (all down to emissions). The most expensive gas guzzler/polluter is ~$720/year :eek:
  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 30 deg F , wind W 19. That wind should have helped me on the eastbound leg , and it did , but it ended up at 34.3 miles , 59.9 *. 93 = 55.7 MPG. Tank is at 371.1 miles , 59.8 *. 93 = 55.6 MPG.
    My auto insurance is about $1000 a year , but there is only one vehicle and one driver ( no multi-car discount) and I have some pretty good coverage . Then in Illinois we pay $99 a year , I think , for our vehicle registration sticker. I recently renewed my driver's licence , for $35 ( for four years).
  9. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    I mis-spoke yesterday. That's $300 per car every 6 months, or 600 / year.
    Cheap gas.
    $75 / yr registration.

    Anyway, it was strangely warm here yesterday. 66F going home, cooling to 42 this morning.
    51.5 / 5.3 - home
    55.3 / 4.8 - out in the evening
    50.0 / 4.9 - back home
    53.8 / 8.4 - school and work

    Tank 51.3 / 71 mi, still F.
  10. Die2self

    Die2self Saving more by using less!

    Yeah each state has its own taxation and fees. Some states require a year or every other year inspections for drivablity and emissions, some don't. Registration seems to be the only constant. We get ours done for 2 years at a time. So about $60-$90 per vehicle including the inspection. Some states then also add on personal property tax on any vehicle you own that year and the price is determined by it age. Some states do not do this and only collect the property tax once when the vehicle is bought. Here most of the property tax is collected on the vehicles and houses and goes to the local school district (about 85%) of the taxes collected.

    last night:
    - 49.0 / 13.0 miles (37F W@12)
    FCD = 48.8 (+0.2)

    this morning with school drop off:
    - 49.9 / 13.2 miles (32F NW@9)
    FCD = 48.9 (+0.1)

    4.19 gals converted
    201.9 miles
  11. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks guys! Quite a difference between states then, never mind countries!

    Went to physio last night in the Jazz/Fit, mild 54°F but dark:
    56.8 / 8.2
    52.7 / 7.9

    Car pooler's Volvo gone in for brakes to be fixed so I drove to work this morning, 2UP, 51°F, 25mph head/crosswind gusting to 50mph :eek:. First time I've driven the commute since 12.18.2015 :cool:
    Tried a different shorter route as motorway was pretty much all temporary 50 PSL with average speed cameras, not so good:
    40.8 / 21.0

    Tank down 0.2 at 43.4 / 383.8 / Range 215. Guess gauge: F____|««««E . UG up 0.1 at 43.4 / DTE189
  12. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 25 deg F , wind WSW 7 MPH. 34.3 miles , 61.5 *.93 = 57.19 MPG. Tank is at 438.9 miles , 59.8 *.93 = 55.61 MPG. Recently , the inbound and outbound commutes yield almost the same results. It's slightly warmer when I go home , but the wind negates that. Two pips remain on this tank ; will probably fill Thursday AM.
  13. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    42.6 / 3.4 - from work to an errand (busier route)
    47.8 / 5.2 - home
    51.6 / 8.3 - this morning with light frost

    Tank down to 50.7 / 88 mi, right on F now.
  14. Die2self

    Die2self Saving more by using less!

    last night, I got home and had to finally turn the lights on that last few blocks So loads of FASing.
    - 60.0 / 13.0 miles (39F NNW@5)
    FCD = 49.4 (+0.5)

    This morning with school drop off and having to hurry, so some 'spirited' drive was needed on a cold engine (87F from EBH)
    - 42.5 / 13.1 miles (21F SSE@1 with frost) took the highway as well to save some time.
    FCD = 49.0 (-0.4)

    next few days should help the tank average to go up I hope with a little warm up.

    4.72 gals converted
    227.7 miles
  15. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Last night, 2UP, detour #2, 47°F, 11mph tailwind W:
    40.1 / 20.0 (FCD 42.2)

    Guess what? I'm driving again today, the garage where car pooler took his car had 2 people off sick yesterday so it didn't get looked at :rolleyes:, 2UP, frost overnight 38°F, 7mph headwind WSW. Back to the motorway through the temporary 50PSL average speed cameras, wasn't as bad as I thought, a combination of some decent 'N' glides and DFCO:
    46.2 / 22.5 (FCD 48.6)

    Lost fourth pip @ 400 miles

    Tank steady at 43.4 / 426.5 / Range 165. Guess gauge: F____|_«««E . UG steady at 43.4 / DTE147

    I don't seem to get the same cold hit I got in the diesel Honda when it dropped below 45°F, I got pretty much the same MPG this morning as I did when it was 60°F :D
  16. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Today , 30.5 deg F , wind SW 13 MPH. 34.3 miles , 62.4 * .93 = 58.03 MPG. Tank is at one pip ( not flashing) , 506.6 miles , 59.8 *.93 = 55.61 MPG. Taking the scenic route to the pub tonight , probably filling up at around 536 miles.
  17. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    48.4 / 5.3 - home. I was rolling up to a red light and noticed an unusual, quiet sort of scraping or rubbing "shhhhhhh" sort of sound. I tapped the brakes to see if that was it. No. Checked the vent fan. Off. Finally stopped and it was still there. Look down at the dash. Tachometer 1000 rpm. :mad::eek:
    50.1 / 8.4 - this morning, with furry frost

    Tank is down to 50.4 / 109 mi, right on F.
  18. Die2self

    Die2self Saving more by using less!

    it makes me feel sheeeeeppppish! when it happens to me too :oops:. With the road noise and wind, it's hard to tell if the engine is running in the fit until it is stopped. Then you have to really be listening for it.

    last night:
    - 56.9 / 12.9 miles (48F SSE@13 head wind)
    FCD = 49.4 (+0.4)

    this morning with school drop off:
    - 49.7 / 13.1 miles (32F SSW@4)
    FCD = 49.5 (+0.1)

    hoping for close to 60 MPG on the way home tonight so hopefully no klingons on the way home.:rolleyes:

    5.21 gals converted
    253.6 miles
  19. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    Filled up on the way home from the pub. Last pip started flashing at 509 miles. Not the worst tank of the year. 537.9 miles , 60.1 *.93 = 55.89 MPG . I did not check SG :) but it's probably about 54. From work to pub was decent , considering the weather ( 35 deg F ). 66.2 (fcd) 25.5. Will have nice weather this weekend ( all relative, of course) , so MPGS could grow a bit. Cindia and I are going to a " real rock club" Saturday , so ...........we will need heat. But no hurry and favorable roads, too. I expect about 50 miles Saturday ( aside from commuting). But we deserve to have fun , no ? Even though we are in the boondocks. Approx 16,500 miles on ODO. Klingons ?
  20. Gord

    Gord Super Moderator Staff Member

    Andrew - so annoying. almost as annoying as engine restarting when you key off and on.....
    Edwin - Pretty good tank considering :)

    Last night, 2UP, detour #2, 48°F, 16mph cross/tailwind SW, busy:
    39.3 / 20.1

    I'm driving again today - it's a comedy of errors :rolleyes:, the garage where car pooler had taken his car and left him a courtesy Ford Ka for today but forgot to put the keys through his door :p, 2UP, mild 53°F. We seem to be getting the tail-end of the storm that hit the East Coast of the US - wind was up to 43mph gusting to 61 :eek: and swinging between W and S - affected a lot of my N glides:
    44.9 / 22.7

    Tank down 0.2 at 43.2 / 469.3 / Range 120. Guess gauge: F____|_«««E . UG steady at 43.4 / DTE104

    We're off to visit a castle and then eldest daughter for lunch Saturday.
    There's only 4 commutes to do next week so he'll be doing 3 of them now :cool:

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