2016 Nissan Titan with the Cummins Competitive Tow Testing

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  1. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    [​IMG]I cannot wait to see the results of this one. ;)

    [fflash=right]https://www.youtube.com/v/6dCNEnZMiOA?version=3[/fflash]Wayne Gerdes – CleanMPG – Aug 22, 2015

    The 2016 Nissan Titan XD Internal Walk around.

    On a Sunday afternoon in early June during the Dual-Fuel Charger drive between Las Vegas and LA, I saw this lineup of trucks doing a little testing…

    As we have posted numerous times including from the show floor during its debut, the 2016 Nissan TITAN XD was revealed to the world at the 2015 North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) in Detroit this past January.

    The really big deal is the "XD" moniker as it provides an available maximum towing cap of more than 12,000 pounds, a maximum payload capacity of 2,000 pound and has both the fuel-efficiency and affordability of a half-ton pickup.

    The new TITAN XD Crew Cab incorporates the powerful Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel mated to a Heavy-duty 6-speed Aisin AT.

    It will be available in three cab configurations, two frame sizes, three powertrain offerings and five trims but I can only speculate that the XD with the 5.0L Cummins will arrive as a Crew Cab with the long bed first with additional cabs and trims arriving soon afterwards.

    The Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel

    The TITAN XD Cummins diesel is the first commercial application of the new Cummins M2 two-stage turbo system to reduce turbo-lag.

    The new engine also features a Bosch HPCR fuel system to deliver precise fuel control and multiple injections per combustion stroke to increase efficiency and reduce NVH. Advanced maintenance-free Bosch ceramic glow plugs provide quick engine starts, even in extreme low temperatures. Pay attention to the bolded portion of that sentence as we may have something more on this.

    Weight and NVH was reduced by building the cylinder block out of compacted graphite iron (CGI), which is stronger and lighter than traditional iron. A common practice to build the latest large power turbo diesel blocks.

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    Just minutes before its reveal in Detroit earlier this year.​

    Regarding emissions, the new Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel has a particulate filter and selective catalytic reduction fed by a SCR Urea tank.

    The new Cummins 5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel is more capable than small displacement diesel engine offerings (RAM 1500 EcoDiesel) and less expensive than big bore heavy-duty diesels (Ford 2500 – 7500 with the 6.7L PowerStroke, Chevrolet/GMC Silverado/Sierra with the 6.6L Duramax, RAM HD 2500/3500 with the 6.7L Cummins).

    The Cummins is said to provide 45 percent more torque at cruising speed than similar-sized gasoline V8 engines.

    Another major plus regarding this beast is it is an American All-Star that will be assembled in Canton, Mississippi, with its engine(s) assembled in Indiana and Tennessee (5.0L V8 Turbo Diesel and gasoline V8 and V6 respectively).

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    Seconds after the drape was pulled.​

    Pricing and full specifications will be announced very very soon.

    For the full 2016 Nissan Titan XD preview, consider the following: #NAIAS2015 -- 2016 Nissan Titan Preview

    2016 Nissan Titan with the Cummins Competitive Tow Testing in Southern California

    It appears that Nissan was tow and efficiency testing their all-new 2016 Titan XD with the Cummins up against a 2015 Ford F-150 FX-4 4X4 and a 2015 RAM 1500 4X4 EcoDiesel on the 210 in Los Angeles County. Given the late afternoon hour and day of the week, I suspect they were doing a real world fuel economy towing road tests up and over the Cajon Pass and back on the I-15 on that day. Just a guess however.

    2016 Nissan Titan with the Cummins Tow Testing

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    2016 Nissan Titan w/ the Cummins front end.

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    2016 Nissan Titan w/ the Cummins alongside.

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    2016 Nissan Titan w/ the Cummins alongside with the RAM 1500 EcoDiesel 4x4 up front.

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    15 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel 4X4 with the same tow weight.

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    15 Ford F-150 FX-4 4X4 Anchoring the trio.​

    Do the math.

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    #CumminsSoon​
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2015
  2. e90diesel

    e90diesel Well-Known Member

    I plan on purchasing a full size diesel PU in the next few years. The 6.6 Duramax, 6.7 Powerstroke and 6.7 Cummins are HEAVY trucks!

    Putting out from 765-900 ft lbs of torque has added weight to the drive train. Who in the hell needs that much torque in a PU?

    The 5.0 Cummins should be a lighter more practical package. Since it uses Cummins exhaust after treatment it likely won't be plagued with def/dpf gremlins. I am looking forward to test driving one.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2015
  3. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi E90diesel:

    I like your thought process on this one. The 5.0L may be a bit more than most need too as it most certainly has more power than the 16 Nissan Titan Chassis can safely handle. That however is a good thing. I do not think we need members of the general public towing 10k+ loads with anything.

    Wayne
     
  4. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Exactly WHAT is the advantage of the 5 liter over their 6.7-a detuned 6.7 maybe less torque/hp/boost - perhaps done strictly with "computer tuning to protect lighter duty transmission rear end etc??
    1) Cost of motor drivetrain?? V-8 costs less than straight 6?? Hard to believe the difference is much
    2) How much better is the FE?? 5 liter vs detuned 6.7??
    3) Weight-the 5 liter should be lighter
    4)Packaging-5 liter more compact-no question
    Yeah why the new motor?? Especially such a potent new motor??
    I always insist on being the anti-diesel sour grapes member-
    spark engines are soooo reliable-soooo cheap
    Yeah who needs 12,000 tow in a half ton-ish vehicle
    The spark motors are claiming 10,000 lbs now??

    The Dodge 3.0TD makes more sense for a "not pure tow work truck 1/2 ton"
    The "real work truck 6.7 straight six" makes more sense as a tow truck work vehicle

    People who tow with pickups-tow "light" stuff usually-maybe a 5000 lb boat-at most
    Usually just flat bed trailers with law care "stuff"

    Oh well-seems a 6.7 modified-hell sleeved or de-stroked and detuned for a light duty transmission rear end-would make more sense(except fot the long hood packaging-and weight-)

    Charlie
    PS It would be fun to own a diesel-but since i can't afford one-I will continue to urinate on your dreams-pure sour grapes!
     

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