The scandal of fiddled global warming data

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by ALS, Jun 23, 2014.

  1. booferama

    booferama He who posts articles

    Ah, the ever-objective CNS News posts an interview with an astronaut who's going to present at the Heartland Institute conference. (This is the same Heartland Institute that worked with Philip Morris to try to deny the link between secondhand smoke and health risks. You know, a reliable group.)

    Here's a good summary explanation of CO2 levels and past temperatures.

    And now, fun with the astronaut's claims:

    I guess we'll have to take him at his word.

    Ah, yes, the true motive of climate scientists: money! They're getting stinking rich off their peer-reviewed work!

    I'm beginning to think Cunningham doesn't understand why CO2 is a problem. No one's claiming it's dangerous to breathe CO2 at 4,000 ppm.

    Hey, Walt, you done any research into how we might be able to measure that impact? What's that? You haven't? Oh, okay.

    Also, 300 million years ago, seven billion humans walked the earth.

    I've already pointed out in this thread how the 97% was arrived at. The fact that he calls the number "nonsensical, stupid" shows just how a) ignorant or b) mendacious Cunningham is. He either doesn't understand or doesn't care that he's lying.
  2. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

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  3. ksstathead

    ksstathead Moderator

  4. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Just curious-is this Cunningham-related to the VN war fighter pilot- and later member of Congress Cunningham-one who accepted bribes-did time?
    Just curious
  5. booferama

    booferama He who posts articles

    A quick scan of his Wikipedia page says he's the fighter pilot, not the other Cunningham.
  6. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    I also checked
    suspected they MIGHT be related-both fighter pilots-same last name
    But no hint they are related-
    Common enough name
    PS This Cunningham-very well educated harvard etc
    but lotte lying SOBs from harvard-
    and smart guy like this-bring up "breathing levels" when he knows full well that has nothing to do with "warming"

    Yeah very smart guy-being INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING- very suspicious he is there to do what ivy league types usually do-get a paycheck and screw the rest of us-
    Just like the pricks who brought us 2008

    Now possible that Global Climate Change is no big deal-we won't know for a long time
    but his being intentionally misleading-because he knows his audience is ignorant-makes me very suspicious of anything that comes out of his mouth.
    Lying for a living
    hell he should run for congress!!
  7. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

    or president
  8. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member


    Bill "I did not have sex with that woman" (married to hillary-you would lie too)

    George Bush "Saddam has WMDS"( 5000 dead soldiers-maybe 50,000 significant injuries -

    President Obama "You will get to keep your policy"
    Well he should have added-unless it is a POS policy which if it is cheap-it is a POS policy.

    But you are right-Presidents tell real whoppers!! But not the same
    When in the world did Republicans become interventionists "nation builders"
    NEOCONS-real POS
    Do't like rand Paul much but he is dead on in respect to that.
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  9. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

    You forgot one:

    "This will be the most transparent administration in history.".

    Sorry for commenting off subject.
  10. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Yeah when they start with something like that
    Pretty much assuring you THEY ARE HONEST even Before anyone suggests they aren't

    Better keep your hand on your wallet-

    Just like folks who feel the need to assure you "my word is my bond"
    Yeah shake hands with them-count your freakin' fingers when your hand comes back!

    Oh- C Ray Nagin- mayor of NOLA during Katrina-was just sentenced 10 years(seems about right-prosecutors wanted 20 years-that was excessive for a "not violent crime" and he didn't make himself rich the way Edwin Edwards(just 10 years) did
    Edwards still rich-but he was a more adept governor-and THIEF-than Nagin

    He-NAGIN- came in as a reformer-pretty sure he assured us" Transparent etc"

    I once bought a rifle from a guy who assured me he was going to bring "some parts etc" the next day-yeah literally said "my word is my bond"
    No kidding actually said that
    Of course I knew otherwise-but I wanted the rifle-40 cal carbine when they had a brief moment of "interest" 20 years ago.
    No he didn't "keep his word" and no I wasn't surprised

    Yeah anyone who unasked assures us he is honest-is a thief-never fails
  11. worthywads

    worthywads Don't Feel Like Satan, I am to AAA

    I like Obama, but I cringe and think BS, every time I hear him say "Let me be very clear on this". Usually means the opposite.
  12. bestmapman

    bestmapman Fighting untruth and misinformation

  13. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    I can relate... My roommate and I have only run the a/c about 5 days total this year. (and we're right outside DC). Last month's electric bill was under $100, and we have a 1,900 square foot single family home. If you configure your home correctly you can keep the house surprisingly comfortable without a/c.
  14. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    My last months electric bill was $105. Texas. Electric cooking, water heating, laundry, everything. Six people living here, with someone home all day long. AC gets a lot of use, but it's a new model high efficiency unit. (16 SEER)
  15. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    That's really good. You probably have better insulation than we do too. We added extra to the attic, but I suspect the walls are probably as poorly insulated as the attic originally was.
  16. PaleMelanesian

    PaleMelanesian Beat the System Staff Member

    Eh, our insulation isn't great, but the big user is the AC and we have an efficient one.

    Oh, and our rates are lower than yours, I can almost guarantee. So we're not comparing apples to apples. :/
  17. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    Our a/c was replaced with a high efficiency unit 6 or 7 years ago. Its still pretty good, but I'm sure the new ones are better.
  18. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

    The newer mini-splits have a SEER in the range of 28.
  19. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Our most recent bill-nola suburb-1700 sq ft
    Was $178- I think 1530 KWHrs- roughly 46 KWH per day-33 days
    Currently about 11.5 cents per

    We have a 3.5 ton central unit- 13 SEER-MAYBE 10 YEARS OLD
    But we mainly use the window units-one in both bedrooms-one in the kitchen/breakfast room
    WE upgraded 2 of the units this summer- 8100 11.4 EER 710 WATTS-so 7.5 cents per hr 6050 11.2 540 watts 5.6 cents per hour.
    They replaced a 12000 btu 11.7 and a 6500 BTU 9.7
    The 12000 cooled very well but it was sooo damn noisy my wife would turn it off and turn the central on-35 cents per hr

    The other bedroom 5200 10.8 maybe 5 cents per hr.
    Our bill indicates our usage is about 5kwh per day less just because of the newer smaller window units.

    We might bump the central on for 1 hr/d

    Neil- mini splits SEER 28?? Wow
    This is using electricity??
    I vaguely remember some central Acs that claimed 25 SEERS- but they were some sort of hybrid that used NG TO DRIVE THE COMPRESSOR(never clear to me how it did that)?
    28 seer- wow!!
  20. NeilBlanchard

    NeilBlanchard Well-Known Member

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