Poll: Do You Think America Should Dissolve

I hope to start working for a company that has facilities in both Batavia IL and British Columbia. Then maybe next year I can move to Vancouver , where people and government are more civilized and responsible.

 

Very intersting discussion concerning deeply felt convictions.

Well said!

I have a puzzle for you ALL regarding abortion and birth control.

I will first provide my credentials: CHRISTIAN, male, white, middle class, married, 2 adult children.

Our youngest, an attractive daughter now 47 years old, is a brain injured from birth due to high forceps crushing her skull. She is permanently disabled due to epilepsy/seizures, thyroid, learning disability/developmental disability. Lots of complex meds. She learned to speak at 7 years and read at 12 years.

She was physically maturing at age 11, attractive, and in public school special education. The boys noticed and were “chasing” …

We had an endocrinology appointment at a prestigious teaching Medical University in Texas. After the checkup we asked the doctor about birth control since our daughter’s judgment was marginal at best and degree of self-control might even be worse. Keep in mind she could not care for a cat.

The doctor stated that she should have ALL of the children she could, that simple direct and with great conviction.

Questioning this guidance, we spoke to the department head. The response was MORE BLUNT! The doctor was WRONG in his recommendation in that he knew there was a >80% probability that any of our daughter’s offspring would be in worse physical and intellectual shape than she was.

You have all seen the lawyers’ ads to sue for pharmaceutically induced birth defects. Well, she has been on many of those suspect meds.

She has had several $200Ks in special ed/therapy … some times/year, medical and support services bills easily exceeding $130k/year.

What would you do?



Are any of our “pro-life” friends willing to pay the bills, potentially well over $250k/year … donate manhours (often 24-7), or take on life-time care of one of these precious offspring.

IF so, THEY need to step up NOW ... and ... JUST DO IT!

Odds are that local hospitals, Dept. of Social Services, school districts (special ed depts) and local churches already know who needs help.

 

Just a clue about the typical voters’ opinion …

Senator Sanders BUDGET DEFICIT POLL – Preliminary RESULTS (want a mandate???)

Do you support or oppose each of the following to help reduce the nation's budget deficit?

Raising taxes on households with incomes of 250 thousand dollars per year and higher
Support 2556
Oppose 39
Unsure 11

Raising taxes on the middle class
Support 252 ... the highest "republican" position ... interesting ... apparently >15% of the "middle class" respondents are willing to help in hard times*
Oppose 2045
Unsure *300

Reducing Social Security benefits
Support 61
Oppose 2478
Unsure 54

Reducing Medicare benefits
Support 51
Oppose 2497
Unsure 44

Reducing military spending?
Support 2369
Oppose 111
Unsure 121
________________________________________
Total Submissions: 2608 (as of Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:30 PM)

EDIT: If these numbers are representative then it appears there was a mandate regarding the issue differences between Democrats and Republicans. The last time I saw the Bernie's poll data the respondent count was over 8.5k but the ratios had not change by any notable degree.


It appears that 5~10% in Sanders' poll is relatively consistent with the poll in this thread.

It is sad that they are so angry that they would rather destroy the US than try to find common ground solutions.

 

Anyone that wants to help can simply send a "donation" to the US Treasury specifing to pay down the National Debt.

That does not even require a statutory tax or a tax form. Who knows ... it might even be a charitable contribution.

I wonder how many of the "greatful top 10%" do that ...

Every little bit helps you know.

 

We want somebody else to pay. Even the most adamant high tax advocates won't give more without force.

 

So, what's new?

Some people, regardless of their economic status, will try to "game" the system.

Has greed replaced intergity ... as a general standard of behavior?

Sadly, according to what some of you folks are saying ... apparently so.

 

I don't think so, but it is tolerated far more that it should be. Using one injustice to justify another is not the way to build a better world.

 

Greed-is the basis of capitalism.
Who "needs" $200,000,000??
Call it what you want- but greed drives many many people.
Greed and the power $$ brings-drive people.
$$ is good
Loving $$$ -not all good- because them you screw other people- it pisses them off-and they don't vote for you-or French Revolution- Chinese Revolution Russian Revolution (any of them)they cut your head off-put a bullet in your head neck or head and neck.
So countries with armed citizens-have to be very careful
Lotta these anti gov groups-they usually have an anti wall street anti jewish conspiracy aspect to them-and they are armed
Sorta "little bird in in mine early warning system"-more of these groups when the country is pissing on the poor whites- Depression-those bank robbers-thugs murderers- were admired because they stole from the rich
Same thing now- but we are MUCH better armed
(on average not individually since many of those 30's robbers-BARs Thompsons-1911's-steel bullet proof vests)-were very well armed)
So yeah- promoting the middle class by redistributing-taxing rich who were overpaid-important-getting jobs- very important
Yeah we are a violent bunch-Europeans-violent history -USA violent history
"Violence is as American as Apple pie"

 

Red state drivers are the worst

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84105.html

 

Why? Researchers point their fingers at a range of reasons, including the preponderance of windy and sometimes mountainous two-lane roads in rural areas.

Windy-means winding probably but wind won't help either.
Yeah-rural roads= dangerous roads- 1940's roads with 2012 speeds and traffic
Bad shoulders poor site lines sharp curves lotta 1/2 tons that will flip

 

Wow, who would have thought Massachusetts would be the safest state? The upside of aggressive driving is that everyone is paying attention! Ha ha . . .