Hurricane Sandy

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by southerncannuck, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. southerncannuck

    southerncannuck Well-Known Member

    Just a head's up to all my North East friends. Hurricanes are to be taken seriously. I've been thru a bunch over the last 45 years in Florida. If you are in a low area expect flooding. Bring in anything that's lying around outside that might become a projectile. Protect your important papers. Fuel up your car. Have lot's of ice on hand.

    I'm wishing you guys the best.
  2. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    This is a HUGE hurricane.
    I live in a suburb of New Orleans,so I've been thru a few.
    This one reminds me of Issac-just Cat ONE but HUGE and slowing moving-
    meaning LOADS of RAIN! It has a lower cenntral pressure 950 millibars-Issac was maybe 960 at lowest.
    Nasty storm.
    Oh the East Coast and NE folks-even New England-they are familiar with Hurricanes.
    First hurricane I was ever in-1955 or so-I was in Fall River Mass(beat up textile mill town even then)-Diane maybe??? Yeah we drove up from Philly to see relatives-arrived day before- forcasting wasn't too great then. No satellites
    Good luck-if it is slow might have heavy winds for 2 days-instead of the 12-20 hrs of a usual hurricane.

    How will this effect the election?
    President Obama's voters are generally less likely to vote-so are any of these states close? NJ- Penn -NY any in NE ?
    On the other hand his voters are more likely to vote early-so ??

    Another aside- ND won-despite all you ND haters-so I'm happy! If the Saints win-really unlikely-I'll be beyond belief happy.
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2012
  3. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    It just stopped raining in Miami yesterday, and it was 100s of miles away!..

    Charlie, a hurricane wont stop vote fraud, that stuff is organized by pros with busses etc.. Obama should be ok
  4. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    States of emergency declared in NY, and in Long Island's Nassau and Suffolk counties. So far (Sunday 10:30am), it's a little windy and warm (55F) - feels more like mid April than late October. It should get warmer as the storm arrives and then the winds will start to build from the east.

    Anyone in the area who owns a FSP that is upside down on the loan is advised to park it immediately next to the west side of the trunk of any large and rather unhealthy looking tree.
  5. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Chris:
    Good Advice as there could be a new 2013 Hyundai Sonata or Elantra GT at the end of the rainbow after the storm passes ;)

    For anyone in its path, stay indoors and move to higher ground if available to you. I did read the Subways will be shutdown throughout NY City due to the potential for massive flooding.

  6. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    HI All:

    Gov Cuomo announced the New York MTA will suspend service at 7pm ET on Sunday evening.

  7. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    On the upside FSPs- you could also park it near the coast-perhaps stall in an underpass.
    Flooding always kills more cars than trees.
    And isn't NYNY- and other east coast areas-at risk of flooding in storm surges?

    In the 1950's we used to go to Atlantic City and near there-to tbe beach
    can't remember those areas having sharp drop downs to the beaches-no cliffs no mountains no hills-you would smell the ocean-see dunes-and you were there.
    How far do storm surges penetrate in NJ NY etc?
    Are they low-like the Gulf coast??

    Yeah this one could cause plenty of flooding!

    Herm- it is good to know "my boys" are on top of their game-"vote early and often" I hope!!
    In Chicago 1960 and prbably Texas 1960- there certainly would have been plenty of that.
    Now unfortunately the best "my boys" can do is bus folks to the polls-buy them some fast food-maybe pay some "helpers" to assist folks to the polls-maybe slip folks a few $$ for going to vote
    But they can't get dead folks to vote anymore-unfortunate but there it is.
    Can't get folks to "vote early and often" either.
    Now I do admire your boys trying to re-institute the poll tax-real hardball
    Since a vote supressed is as good as a vote cast!

    I would be in favor of paying folks to vote!! What is wrong with that?? Basically induce EVERY voter to vote-!! Say $5 per vote $1 billion-chicken feed!
  8. Blackbelt

    Blackbelt Well-Known Member

    Really? How so?:confused::confused:
  9. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    nahh, you want voting to be hard.. restrict it to land owners, at least 1/4 acre.. plus they have to own a battlerifle (30 caliber) and be able to hit a 6" target at 100 yards, after sprinting 100 yards in less than 1 minute.
  10. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    30 CAL battle rifle??
    Only The Low Rent former Commies some South Americans and Allah Akbars use 30 cal battle rifles now!
    And maybe Soldier of Fortune readers!!

    Blackbelt-recent court case-they lost-the dodge was PICTURES IDs that take time and $$ to get-poll tax but different angle-clever but failed-wasted state money doing it of course-Reps are quit to waste taxpayer $$ on BS like that and Creation Science BS
    This is going to be a really nasty post election if it is close-and the Reps lose. Zero chance they will concede without a court battle-not with 1/2 their voters thinking President Obama is a born in Kenya Manchurian Candidate.
  11. ALS

    ALS Super Moderator Staff Member

    No mouse guns for me .30 calibers are the new norm. :D
    Did I tell you how much I like my Armalite AR10 SASS?
  12. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Armalite...Ohhh drool and envy! :)

    I'm all for picture IDs, paid for by the gov if needed.. bar code tats on the back of the neck and RFID chips are probably too much and should be optional
  13. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    At 6:30pm, still no rain - just some mist. Temp is 56F and winds are picking up. Steady east wind at 10mph gusting to about 30mph. Every so often, I hear a rumble as the wind roars for a moment.

    About 24 hours from now, the tree out front should be stripped bare. The leaves have just started changing color but I don't think they'll hold on with the winds we're expecting - winds Monday night at 45-55mph gusting to 75mph. I was just thinking it would be a good time to drive west in a P&G between 45 and 75mph - open the window and toss a feather out and it'd just swirl around outside by the mirror!
  14. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Chris:
    I bet that would occur too!

    80 + mpg while your Elantra went from a few feet ASL to the 2,250 ft. peak of I-80 in PA at 60 mph ;)


  15. FSUspectra

    FSUspectra Practicing true conservatism!

    There was a great discussion this evening on WeatherBrains, a typically weekly show (Monday nights at 9:30pm eastern) discussing various weather topics by prominent meteorologists in the broadcast and operational arenas of the science. Tonight they had a special Sandy episode and discussed the various impacts likely as the storm moves northeastward and is forecast to make a northwest turn in the next 12 hours or so. Here is the link to the video from tonight - WeatherBrains Sandy Special 10.28.12

    The storm is currently gaining strength as indicated by the pressure drop to 950mb and visible eye as of 11pm eastern. Winds are still at 75mph, however winds upward of 100mph were measured at flight level. The question is how much of this will mix down to the surface. The biggest threats still remain the coastal flooding and storm surge and strong winds. Tropical storm force winds (39+ mph) extend out over 500 miles from the storm center, and hurricane force winds (74+ mph) extend out about 130 miles from the center, mainly toward the southwest of the center. As of now, many weather stations are reporting winds of 30-40 mph across DE through RI and higher elevations in TN, VA, and NC are beginning to see snow.


    Here is a pretty good breakdown of the threats state-by-state with Sandy's approach and potential landfall: Weather Underground - Angela Fritz's Wunderblog

    Here is a webcam from the Liberty Statue in NYC. You can actually hear the wind howling as I post this: Liberty Statue Earthcam

    And here is a sky view from the Times Building: NY Times Building Webcam

    This is, of course, only relevant if the models are correct, and they likely are. We have no storm in the history of storm records where a storm has made a landfall onto the NJ coastline, only storms that have ridden up the eastern seaboard. This is literally all new, and much worse than Irene last year. Low lying areas from VA through NY are already reporting surges of 3+ feet. Many places such as Lower Manhattan, WTC site, Battery Park, etc will be or already inches under water. Public transit stopped at 9pm eastern, subways were closed at 4pm, and even all Starbucks in NYC closed at 4pm today to reopen on Tuesday if possible. There is flooding in Norfolk, VA reported with pictures. Trees are already coming down in CT. 40 foot waves are being recorded by buoys 200 miles away from the storm center. And it will likely get worse tomorrow prior to official landfall.

    Stranded vehicle in Norfolk, VA:

    [​IMG] national wind map

    That is all for tonight, I'll try and have an update tomorrow. Pray and think of those in New England because I feel it will be needed.
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2012
  16. herm

    herm Well-Known Member

    Its odd to talk about a hurricane and your temp is at 56..usually sweltering hot in Miami during hurricane season.
  17. MaxxMPG

    MaxxMPG Hasta Lavista AAA-Vee Von't Be Bach

    At 1am Monday morning, still 12 hours before the real winds arrive, we're at 53F (almost 10 degrees above normal for this time of year), and winds are about 20mph gusting to 35+mph. I went out for a walk with my friend at about 8pm to take one last look at everything since I think it will look different 48 hours from now. Last year, after Irene came through, a lot of store signs were down, pieces of vinyl siding, roof shingles, and tree branches were scattered around, and several trees in the neighborhood were lost. Walking back from the diner, we stopped to look up at the clouds. Bands of clear sky with white clouds moving toward the west at a very high rate of speed. No rain - just mist. But steady winds that gust for a moment and then calm down. Definitely feels like tropical weather.

    They've ordered a mandatory evacuation of coastal towns in Nassau County (just east of NYC) - - and all schools are closed. The mass transit systems for Long Island and NYC were shut down as of 7pm Sunday night. The NYC subway and Long Island Rail Road, and all bus service on Long Island - All are stopped until the storm passes. They're reporting that there is already flooding in the west end of Long Beach (barrier island on the south shore of LI) as of earlier this evening.

    The south shore of Connecticut and Rhode Island will also see flooding as Sandy drives the ocean into Long Island sound, and the land to the north (CT) and south (north shore of LI) begin to see water level rising.

    I know the storm is approaching because the cat is going into strange-behavior mode, and the last time she acted this way, we had an earthquake. For hurricanes, I guess they are sensitive to air pressure changes? I can barely type this because the kitty is trying to burrow under my hand and under my arm, as if she's trying to hide. Yup, the pets know what's coming and that it's time to burrow in for the storm.
  18. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Yikes-HUGE STORM!

    Maxx- is Long Island a sandy barrior type island-like our Gulf Coast islands and like many east coast islands farther south?
    Or is it sorta rocky-glaciers droppings like NYNY is in places?
    Just curious HOW bad it is there-since the sandy barrior islands are pretty low-except for dunes-which aren't that sturdy!
    Pricy real estate-right-so damages are going to be Billions??
    Hurricane in this cold weather?? Odd-how warm is the surface water off NYNY?
    What is feeding this storm?

    ALS Armalite huh- great name- but you eastern folks are supposed to be antigun-so maybe you should send it south before it starts bothering your conscience! I can find it a good home. I remember the cool little Armalite 22's-with the screw off barrel that fit in the stock- made you feel like James Bond-think he used one-in 25 cal-in From Russia with Love
  19. 08EscapeHybrid

    08EscapeHybrid Moderator

    Doesn't exactly work that way. Over the summer, a tree fell on my 1998 GMC Sierra K1500. The truck has 185,000 miles, it's going on 15 years old, and they still didn't total it.

    They paid to fix the windshield, roof, hood, left & right fenders, and the driver's side door, then paint for about half the truck.
  20. phoebeisis

    phoebeisis Well-Known Member

    Wow-those Insurance cheapskates didn't total a $5000 truck?
    Course it is worth more to you than they would ever give.

    Yes-they need to be flooded to get totaled-there will be plenty of that-and plenty of insurance fraud
    And plenty of flooded lightly rehabbed vehicles will be back on the market (look for fine silt in hard to clean places)
    Good luck!! HUGE and slowish moving-bad combo

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