The car once associated with family and utility has been resurrected in sport and luxury forms. [xfloat=right]http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/magnum.jpg[/xfloat]Hannah Elliot - Forbes - Mar. 19, 2009 The performance emphasis will negate most of the FE saving a station wagon would have over an SUV. -- Ed. Recent announcements from GM and Chrysler about their plans to drop several models and brands didn't seem to hinder Cadillac's resolution to press forward with the launch of its first-ever station wagon. The Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon, due out in May, is essentially the brand's successful CTS sedan, but with additional cargo space. Cadillac reps say they're catering to luxury-minded buyers who want to downsize while maintaining practicality. "We think the newness of it and the sort of times in which we're living, it seems like the right car at the right time and the right size," says David Caldwell, a spokesman for Cadillac. Cadillac isn't alone. The car market has a surprising amount of new luxury station wagons. And these upscale wagons don't all have luxury prices... [rm]http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/25/new-station-wagons-lifestyle-vehicles_wagons.html[/rm]
I'd love a FE wagon - being in a band - having room to throw all the equipment in for gigs would be awesome. Wagons make sense - but I've long since deciphered that if something makes sense to me, then more often than not, it will never make it to production.
I don't see all that much here. We already have station wagons, but like the Subaru they mentioned in the article, they are classed as SUVs according to the EPA, so FE is right out the window. Now if they actually call it a station wagon (they did mention several in the article that really are), then they have to meet the regular car FE requirements of the EPA. I can go with that just fine. If that happens here it will be the first "true" station wagon from a major company in a very long time.
Shh! Don't tell anybody, but most minivans and SUV's functionally are station wagons with weight problems. A fun, but rude, thing to do is to call an acquaintance's new SUV a "station wagon" (or better yet "minivan") and watch their reaction.
That would be funny. I know someone that buys only SUVs because she hates the minivan/station wagon stigma. Its like the simple fact that GI joes are just as much dolls as Barbies are. Action figures.....Sport Utility Vehicles.....terms probably created by the same marketing genius!
What gets me steamed is that the only reason they call them SUVs is to avoid having to comply with better FE standards. The HHR and Caliber are SUVs? Yup. At least that's how they are classed for FE. We all know that they are station wagons.
Wait what? How the hell is the Caliber classed as an SUV. I want to see some citations and I want to see them now.
I think most SUV buyers get them because of the minivan/wagon stigma. The great thing about wagons is: given the same engine, drivetrain and body (except for the back end), a wagon gets almost exactly the same FE as the sedan it's based on but is WAY more functional. And often has more cargo space than a supposedly "comparable" SUV that sucks more gas. THe problem with the return of wagons is that "given the same engine, drivetrain and body" isn't always happening. A lot of the new wagons are showing up as as bloated "crossovers" with jacked-up bodies, AT-only, optional (or standard) AWD and bigger engines than their sedan counterparts. And guess what? They suck more gas. This only reinforces the FALSE popular belief that practical vehicles must necessarily be less fuel efficient than sedans. Even Mazda refuses to offer the more efficient 2.0L engine on the Mazda3. Recent Yays in the wagon world: VW Jetta TDI SportWagen! Current car review articles might argue the finer points about whether the TDI or the Prius is a better "family sedan", but they utterly miss the point by forgetting about the existence of the wagon. If you get the SportWagen, the TDI absolutely blows the Prius away in terms of utility. If you don't need the extra space by all means get the Prius. But if you do, the TDI is greener per cubic foot. Hyundai Elantra Touring. This new-for-09 model slipped under my radar until last week. There are a lot of small, reasonably FE wagons on the market these days (Fit, Matrix, Versa, Mazda3, etc.), but except for the TDI the midsize and near-midsize wagons (Subaru, Volvo, VW Passat, Scion xB Gen2, Mazda5) generally get EPA combined ratings in the low 20s. Or worse. Hyundai has kept the drivetrain options reasonable on the Touring, and although the resulting 26mpg EPA combined figure isn't as good as many of the smaller wagons, it's the best in its class (other than TDI and the FFH/MMH/MTH) and only 2mpg less than the Versa. Recent Nays: Toyota Venza. As the wagon version of the Camry, this one is BIG. Given the amount of cargo space 22mpg is actually pretty respectable. But I still have to call it out as a NAY because of drivetrain inflation: only the 3.5L engine is offered. Based on the ratings of the various Camry variants, if the 2.4L engine were offered we'd be looking at EPA numbers of 24 or 25mpg. And from a hypermiler's perspective I'm disappointed at the lack of an MT offering, although in this segment it's hardly a surprise. Also, the Camry is offered as a hybrid -- when do we get a Venza hybrid?! Volvo V70. I've always given Volvo (along with Subaru and VW) props for having always offered wagon versions of its sedans through thick and thin, even through the wagon "dark ages" from around 1996-2003. But sadly, as of 2008 the V70 is only available with AT. That leaves Volvo with zero MT wagon offerings in North America anymore. Boo! VW Passat Wagon. As of 2009 Volkswagen -- Volkswagen -- has dropped the MT from the Passat lineup (including the sedan too). To me that is a staggering development. I'm not surprised to hear this from from Volvo, but from VW? Come on! I know MTs only make up 3% of the total US car market anymore, but still ... Boo! And finally, Subaru gets both a YAY and NAY from me (and I say all this as a 3-time Subaru owner) - Yay for still offering MTs in all their wagons. Unlike almost everyone else. - Yay for developing a fuel efficient diesel. - Nay for not bringing the diesel to the USA. - Nay for sticking to their AWD-only mantra. Subaru didn't drop their 2WD models until 1996 (not that long ago to someone like me) and the AWD system still imposes a 2-3mpg penalty. That might be OK if it were on the diesel model with FE comparable to the VW TDIs, but is NOT ok when paired with their fuel-sucking 2.5L gas engines. FE is the primary reason Subaru lost me as a customer.
Are they trying to call this a wagon version of the Camry? www.fueleconomy.gov calls it a SUV. Yeah, it's not just the American companies doing this to us.
I think Toyota refers to it as a "cross-over", which is the new term for SUV now that SUV is a dirty word. It is based on the Camry platform.
I guess since FE requirements don't have a crossover class, they just lump them into the SUVs. Either way, it artificially raises the fleet SUV average and fails to bring down the car average. This way they can still sell those monstrous FSPs and say "our average is ###". Frankly, if the EPA is going to call it a SUV, so will I.
Agree on the Subaru, except that I still like AWD. Now I'd prefer part time 4WD if it reduced drag. I'm still on my first, and was attracted to it partly because it was NOT an SUV, as SUVs were still exempt from many safety standards at that time. It was a disappointment when Outbacks became SUVs about 2004. To avoid CAFE, they took the car most prone to rollover and jacked it up another inch. My attraction to the new 2009 Forester ended the instant I learned its FE was up a measly 1 mpg from my old wagon. (And its back is too short for my skis.) I can hang on to it several more years waiting for the diesels to arrive. If not, bye-bye Subaru.
There are lots of used escort wagons around, they are cheap reliable cars and if you get one with a manual tranny i bet they are good for 40-50 mpg when hypermiled
Hmm, visiting the Toyota Venza site, they do offer a 2.7L 4cylinder engine too. I guess it's just not on fueleconomy.gov yet? It's supposed to get 21/29 according to the Toyota site, so that's actually not too bad for something that's an "SUV". http://www.toyota.com/venza/specs.html
Finding one with a manual trans is tough. Been there done that. The majority are automatics, particularly the later years which were heavily sold as fleet vehicles. (Virtually all maid services in my area used them for a time, and one that is nearby still has a fleet of at least 10 of them, which testifies to their durability since most are pushing 10 years old now.)
