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    <title>Fuel Economy</title>
    <description>Discuss how to achieve better fuel economy.</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 11:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Is it harder to hypermile a car with high horsepower?</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 22:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Appletank)</author>
      <dc:creator>Appletank</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I preface to say I do like my Rav4 PHV all things considered, it&#039;s great at doing city driving and swapping seamlessly for family vacations. However, when checking the OBD readouts, it seems like I need to put my foot pretty far down in order to load the engine to at least 80%, 1700 RPM. Which results in quite a lot of acceleration. Makes me need a bit more space in order to get an adequate pulse in, to the point I wonder whether it&#039;d be worth draining a bit of the battery until I get the space and speed to run the engine longer.<br />
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When compared to the Prius, the engine is loaded at 85% or...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/57484/" class="internalLink">Is it harder to hypermile a car with high horsepower?</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Anticipating a Stop</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (featherfoot)</author>
      <dc:creator>featherfoot</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[a good way to save gas energy is to anticipate a stop and slow down accordingly so you don&#039;t turn your expensive gasoline energy into heat on your brake-pads and wear on your tires.   BUT... if you try the morons will race around you in a huff, cut back in front of you, slam on their brakes at the light and ruin your roll through the light.]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>MPG Increase - Non-Ethanol Gas - What to Expect?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2025 03:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Mightymouse13)</author>
      <dc:creator>Mightymouse13</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[My wife, son and myself will be taking a road trip from MA to TN this weekend for a total of 920 miles each way.  I&#039;m making it a point to only fill up with ethanol free gas and I&#039;m wondering how much my mpg will increase.<br />
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We&#039;re driving in her 08 Nissan Versa SL Hatchback with CVT.  Normal highway without applying any hypermiling techniques is 35mpg.<br />
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How many mpg do you think I will gain?  I know someone is dying to tell me ethanol has 90% the energy of gas so a gallon of E10 has 98% the energy of real gas, etc.  I&#039;m looking for some real world advice, not btu calculations!...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/43817/" class="internalLink">MPG Increase - Non-Ethanol Gas - What to Expect?</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Questions about going uphill</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 21:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Appletank)</author>
      <dc:creator>Appletank</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[How much does an uphill eat into MPG? My morning commute is a gradual downhill which is fantastic, but going back home means I&#039;m steadily going uphill.<br />
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I think I roughly lose 20-25%, and nothing seems to make it get that much better, outside of getting an even better downhill run and raising trip avg that way. I can&#039;t tell the difference between PnG or just holding steady, at best it&#039;s like going from 52 to 54.<br />
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The average speed is like, 20 - 40 mph for the steepest segment, which really sucks, can&#039;t get any momentum going.]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Estimating optimal acceleration mpg?</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2023 22:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Appletank)</author>
      <dc:creator>Appletank</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I was bored one day and started fiddling with some numbers on a spreadsheet, thinking about whether the Prius estimate of &quot;about 50-70% speed = mpg&quot; (40mph ~25mpg) acceleration target was applicable to anything else. I sometimes have to drive the family van around, which is fairly old and is EPA estimated for like 22 mpg on the highway. All I have for instrumentation is a Tach and a somewhat laggy i-MPG display, so I&#039;m never entirely sure if I&#039;m in that 70% load zone, couldn&#039;t find a BSFC chart so I&#039;m not sure what kind of &quot;optimal&quot; MPG to expect either. <br />
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So with the sketchy assumption...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/57089/" class="internalLink">Estimating optimal acceleration mpg?</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>15</slash:comments>
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      <title>Ioniq with a Boot (#BritishEnglish) - The 2023 Elantra Hybrid</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56987/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (MaxxMPG)</author>
      <dc:creator>MaxxMPG</dc:creator>
      <slash:comments>3</slash:comments>
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      <title>Bump-starting on V8 Manuals?</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2022 21:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56825/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Nifsu)</author>
      <dc:creator>Nifsu</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi all, I tried searching but wasn&#039;t able to find anything. Does anyone have experience bump-starting a V8 manual transmission car? I am getting one very soon and I want to know if I can bump start it. Any tips or advice is appreciated. The vehicle has a 5.7l engine and 6spd stick. Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Try for max MPG !!</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2022 17:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56902/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (billy)</author>
      <dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Today, the average price of regular unleaded in Calfornia is $6.41.....and rising, thanks to the Democrat ridiculous policies.  So driving efficiently is even more important....]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Is it possible to drive a Jeep on the cheap?</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2022 01:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (MaxxMPG)</author>
      <dc:creator>MaxxMPG</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<i>JEEP - Just Empty Every Pocket. Is it possible to daily drive one of these things without going broke?</i><br />
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<div style="text-align: center"><img src="https://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?media/35762/full" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[&#x200B;IMG]" data-url="https://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?media/35762/full" /><br />
<span style="font-size: 12px"><b>Prowling the suburbs by the millions, the 5000 pound 4x4 is today&#039;s ubiquitous family car</b></span>&#8203;</div><br />
Another CleanMPG success story in the making.  Let&#039;s see how hypermiling techniques can be used even with the big thirsty monsters.  We will find out that doing exactly that can offer rather large mpg gains, if you are measuring in terms of percentage.<br />
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As we already know, vehicles...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56897/" class="internalLink">Is it possible to drive a Jeep on the cheap?</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>My 2020 Prius MPG....</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2022 22:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (billy)</author>
      <dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[....is looking good.  I bought this L ECO model new at Rodland Toyota in Everett, WA.  Already have 221,000 miles....driving as a document courier 7 days a week.  Now putting on 2,150 miles per week average.  <br />
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Previously I had done lots of city rideshare work, but no more.  In city, I could average 84 mpg in warmer months.  Now my lifetime MPG has gone down to 80.45, as I am mostly on the freeway.  I have returned to many of the freeway hypermile methods I used years ago with my Honda Insights.  And in this Prius, I spend a lot of time coasting in neutral.<br />
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50 lbs air in the stock tires,...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56899/" class="internalLink">My 2020 Prius MPG....</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Tips for a non-hybrid, auto-trans vehicle?</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2021 04:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56414/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Appletank)</author>
      <dc:creator>Appletank</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Most of the big threads seem focused on hybrid vehicles, was wondering if there was anything specific to gas only vehicles I can try out to boost fuel efficiency. I already know about keeping acceleration low, keeping RPMs low, avoid braking<br />
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Is there any point to coasting, because of the whole engine braking problem (P&amp;G)? Or should I just try to keep the car in highest gear, lowest RPM, steady state?]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Chevrolet Cruze 1.6 109 HP Fuel Economy</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2020 09:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56632/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (UberJager)</author>
      <dc:creator>UberJager</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi<br />
My fuel economy test with the Chevrolet Cruze 1.6. This 2010 model car with Euro5 regulations. Consumption is 5.7 liters / 100km.<br />
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      <title>Alternator Management System (AMS)</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 21:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi<br />
Small cars in Europe have a system called the AMS system. This system is about using the battery of the car effectively. Efficiency is obtained from the engine by performing alternator management.<br />
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I wanted to show you how it works in this video.<br />
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      <title>NEDC, WLTP w/ RDE, and EPA???</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2020 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56561/</link>
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      <title>Neat: 40mpg Ecovette</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2019 18:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56502/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Appletank)</author>
      <dc:creator>Appletank</dc:creator>
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Guy tunes his V8 vette with lean burn mode at under 2k rpm, 6th gear.]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Q: Chasing Ignition timing angle?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 15:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56475/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Appletank)</author>
      <dc:creator>Appletank</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Can anyone explain what this does? I saw a thread about holding angle 14 or 30, not sure of stuff after it.]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Cruise Control MPG</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 23:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/54392/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Hypochondriac)</author>
      <dc:creator>Hypochondriac</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Do you guys use cruise control? If so what kind of MPG do you get at around 55/60 MPH?  I&#039;m using the Torque app for MPG, and for my 2000 accord it&#039;s reading around 23 mpg. Which sucks.]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Mileage Gains Using Ethanol Seen 20% Higher Than EPA Says</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2019 03:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (JohnM)</author>
      <dc:creator>JohnM</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Really wish it were true.<br />
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<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-06/mileage-gains-using-ethanol-seen-20-higher-than-epa-says.html?cmpid=yhoo" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-06/mileage-gains-using-ethanol-seen-20-higher-than-epa-says.html?cmpid=yhoo</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Hypermiling a VW TSI (turbo direct injected) engine</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2019 15:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56395/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (swineone)</author>
      <dc:creator>swineone</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello everyone,<br />
<br />
Old timer here (even placed 1st on one of the B-league of the hypermiling competitions about 10 years ago, when I had a Honda Fit), but I haven’t visited the site in a while. However, I’ve been applying what I learned here ever since.<br />
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I just sold my old car and bought a new one, which is a Volkswagen up! with a 1.0 TSI flex-fuel (ethanol and gasoline) engine (3 cylinders, turbo and direct injection). By the way, I bought this car because it is advertised as the most fuel-efficient non-hybrid car in Brazil. This prompted me to come back here to see if I can learn something...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/56395/" class="internalLink">Hypermiling a VW TSI (turbo direct injected) engine</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Sometimes when talking to the highly educated, you just have to do an eye roll</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/54996/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (ALS)</author>
      <dc:creator>ALS</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I was on another board yesterday and the owner had posted the latest article on the new Mazda engine.<br />
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Well the conversation immediately went to fuel economy and how the new ICE motors are quickly gaining on the Hybrids and this isn&#039;t a good trend for the BEV&#039;s, especially Tesla.<br />
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Anyways I brought up what I had learned from Wayne with his experience with Shell and how advanced the Top Tier gasoline&#039;s are today, and how they DO help you increase your fuel mileage. I explained my experience with switching over to Shell exclusively.  <br />
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I  got the all gasoline comes out of the same refinery...<br />
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<a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/54996/" class="internalLink">Sometimes when talking to the highly educated, you just have to do an eye roll</a>]]></content:encoded>
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