Car jerks when trying EOC

Discussion in 'General' started by EspElement, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. EspElement

    EspElement Well-Known Member

    Hey guys! My car that I have drove and hypermiled for years is struggling to pass inspections. Preparing to move on from it... Will get the wife a new car and take her old one... But I am not too trilled. It is a Kia Spectra 08 automatic. When I try to EOC it from neutral it wants to kick. Almost like it isn't actually disengaging the tranny even in neutral. Thoughts here? Is this car not compatible with EOC? I know auto is not ideal for EOC.

    Also where do I go to check if thiscar is "flat towable" maybe that proves it?

    Thanks!
    Joshua
     
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  2. xcel

    xcel PZEV, there's nothing like it :) Staff Member

    Hi Joshua:

    Do not perform a FAS with any of the Hyundai/Kia vehicles. The ATs will not allow a smooth transition and you will cause damage.

    Wayne
     
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  3. EspElement

    EspElement Well-Known Member

    I was fearful of that... Okay it is what it is... Thanks!
     
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  4. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Here's one place that has towing guides for various model years.

    http://www.motorhome.com/download-dinghy-guides/

    Bad news for many cars with automatics, including the Kia/Hyundai, as far as flat towing.
     
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  5. puddleglum

    puddleglum Well-Known Member

    I have a Kia Rondo and I'll echo xcel, EOC is out unless it's just coasting to a stop from below 15 mph. I found even EOnC in neutral is iffy if you have to shift back to drive above 35 mph (really slams back into gear hard) and there is a lot of drag from the transmission when it is in gear. I think you're going to have to stick to less aggressive methods like DWL. Kia's were not optimized for hypermiling unfortunately. You could sell it as well and find a manual as an alternative.
     
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  6. EspElement

    EspElement Well-Known Member

    So neutral coast is almost out the question too eh? Has some body scuffs which is not very inviting to sell. Afraid I won't get much for it as a result. It has 140k miles on it. If I did get something else what would be a good low budget choice?

    DWL? Been a while since I have been here. Had my red car down to mindless hypermiling so I haven't spent much time here. Excited to get back in here!

    Thanks guys
     
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  7. BillLin

    BillLin PV solar, geothermal HVAC, hybrids and electrics

    Back when I had an automatic in a Camry Solara, I did engine on coasting. Worked pretty well. I blipped the throttle before putting it back into drive. Whether that really did anything useful for the transmission, I don't know, but I felt better. :)
     
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  8. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I did a lot of engine-on casting in neutral with my 08 Civic automatic. It was effortless and went back into gear without trauma.
    I always waited about one second before accelerating again to make sure it was in gear. Other cars may not be so friendly.
     
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  9. EspElement

    EspElement Well-Known Member

    My last car was an automatic. It was fine with it too.

    Looking at old civics now. I really want an old manual car!
     
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  10. puddleglum

    puddleglum Well-Known Member

    Never had a car with as much trans drag as the Rondo. Coasting in neutral works okay in town, just not on highway. DWL is driving with load, trying to keep load low. I hear you about Kia's not holding their value.
    I've never owned a Honda but I doubt you can go wrong with one. I've been really happy with my Echo. Great for hypermiling and tons of room for a little car.
     
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  11. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I drove an Echo in 1999 , I think. It was goofy-looking , but excellent. Today , it's not nearly as goofy as a lot of cars out there , lol.
     
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  12. puddleglum

    puddleglum Well-Known Member

    Most all the reviewers say the Echo looks goofy or ugly, but call me weird, I rather like it. It's not beautiful by any means, but cute in a quirky way.
     
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  13. EdwinTheMagnificent

    EdwinTheMagnificent Legend In His Mind

    I agree 100% , Kevin. I should have bought one in 2000 , but I was busy going thru a divorce , lol.
     
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