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Why You Can't Buy a Car With 50mpg as Listed by the EPA
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04-05-2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: Why You Can't Buy a Car With 50mpg as Listed by the EPA
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Originally Posted by Delta Flyer
Maybe we should think out of the box on car safety - could there be a way to be safe and lighter?
What about strech bumpers with long crumple zones that are also streamlined? Maybe airbags can be reinvented?
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More people die today then in the days before airbags and crumple zones and ****. Of course the population is up 33% since 1970, but im not going to tell anyone, im like the media....More people die today then in the days before airbags (because there is more people and more cars).
So get rid of airbags and crumble zones and side impact bars and get me a geo metro 50mpg.  go GM.
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04-05-2008, 03:16 PM
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Re: Why You Can't Buy a Car With 50mpg as Listed by the EPA
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More people die today then in the days before airbags and crumple zones and ****. Of course the population is up 33% since 1970, but im not going to tell anyone, im like the media....More people die today then in the days before airbags (because there is more people and more cars).
So get rid of airbags and crumble zones and side impact bars and get me a geo metro 50mpg.  go GM.
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I hope nobody here mistakes me for many in the general population that wants passive safety to do all the work while driving like an idiot. Wish my CRX was still running in good condition - I'd still drive it.
Extended bumpers - isn't that what bajoos has on his Civic? Why not just make them that way and make them into great crumple zones too?
America is adverse to taking responsibility, but demanding drivers to earn their license would make as much of an impact as airbags. News have reports of repeat DWI's injuring/killing - legally keep them from coming back until they GET IT. Move in the direction of Germany and make getting/keeping a license something that is not taken for granted.
This is my most controversial idea - many new cars already record hard-braking, speed, the usual ScanGage data, etc...enhance that to sharp turns and other reckless driving behavior. At every inspection the data is downloaded. Allow the state and insurance companies to make surcharges on drivers with a long track record of aggressive/reckless driving habits.
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04-06-2008, 01:47 PM
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Re: Why You Can't Buy a Car With 50mpg as Listed by the EPA
a lighter car has less ke, so we just need to stop making cars so heavy.....too many amenities imo. we need to have options, i.e, the same car without all the additional luxury features that make it so darn expensive. as long as it can provide some heat in the winter, then there is no issue there.
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04-06-2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: Why You Can't Buy a Car With 50mpg as Listed by the EPA
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a lighter car has less ke, so we just need to stop making cars so heavy.....too many amenities imo. we need to have options, i.e, the same car without all the additional luxury features that make it so darn expensive. as long as it can provide some heat in the winter, then there is no issue there.
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They'd be reluctant to stop this practice as they make a load of money on the extras. Mind you, i would buy an "Eco Pack" if there was one available. It could include a grille block, a belly pan, a scanguage, narrower wheels...........
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04-06-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: Why You Can't Buy a Car With 50mpg as Listed by the EPA
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I hope nobody here mistakes me for many in the general population that wants passive safety to do all the work while driving like an idiot. Wish my CRX was still running in good condition - I'd still drive it.
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My bad, my intent in quoting you wasnt to make you look like joe american idiot. I just wanted to build off your suggestions.
So I was reading Autoweek, they had a review of the 2008 accord. It said in 1976 when the first generation accord came out, it had a smaller wheel base than the 2007 Fit. How sad our society has become with overstuffing our cars full of crap that isnt needed.
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04-07-2008, 12:18 AM
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Re: Why You Can't Buy a Car With 50mpg as Listed by the EPA
No offence to anyone intended but america is getting bigger.
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04-07-2008, 09:33 AM
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Re: Why You Can't Buy a Car With 50mpg as Listed by the EPA
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No offence to anyone intended but america is getting bigger.
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Check out the buffet style restaurants....they are not hurting in this economic downturn in my experience (seems more people are packing into my local china buffet than ever)
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