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Old 03-18-2008, 08:55 AM
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Subaru expanding R1e pilot program to NY

Operating range, according to Subaru, is 50 miles and the car boasts a top speed of 65 miles per hour.

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The Subaru R1e takes on Times Sqaure as the world waits for the first affordable EV. Is the public willing to purchase them in quantity this time around? -- Ed.

That Subaru R1e caught driving the streets of Manhattan over the weekend foreshadows the expansion the car's field-test program to the United States. Subaru is expected to make a formal announcement within the next hour or so, but we can preview it for you here now. The New York Power Authority (NYPA) will receive two R1e vehicles to pilot in the same way the cars are being used in Japan.

To recap, the R1e is a full-EV version of the Japan-market R1 microcar. Driven by a 40 kW motor powered by a Li-Ion battery pack, the R1e is being field-tested by employees of both the Tokyo Electric Power Comany and NEC Lamilion Energy, Limited. The Japanese government lauded this effort last year. There are currently forty of the cars in service in Japan and Subaru hopes to bump that number to one hundred. When connected to a quick-charger station that's also part of the pilot testing, an 80% charge can be achieved in just 15 minutes. When plugged into a standard household outlet, the car will fully recharge in 8 hours or so. Operating range, according to Subaru, is 50 miles and the car boasts a top speed of 65 miles per hour.

The R1e will be on display at the 2008 New York Auto Show starting this weekend, and we'll update this post with Subaru and NYPA's formal announcement as soon as it hits the wires... [Read More]

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If/when they announce that the R1e is to go on sale in the US, I will be the first at the dealer with my deposit. Go Subaru!!!!
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I'd be interested provided I could plug in at work...
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I'd be interested provided I could plug in at work...
I've already negotiated with our utilities dept. here at work, and they have given me approval to plug in an electric car during the day. I'm hoping to be the first employee to actually show up with a fully functional EV.

Now, all I need is a suitcase full of money to get things started
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Re: Subaru expanding R1e pilot program to NY

The comments at the end of the article questions if the car will ever be available here. One comment states that it definitely will not.

The big 3 don't want or need this competing with their profitability. They will figure a way to keep it out, trust me.

The oil industry also sees this as a direct threat to their "windfall profits". They will help the big 3 keep it out.

The car has little or no chance here. They are just too strong.
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Re: Subaru expanding R1e pilot program to NY

Heck, I could average 1 to 2 WEEKS per charge. It would be great. Is it a 2 seater or just the driver seat?

Problems:

1) It's pretty much an extra vehicle, and, cars being large ticket items, it's a bit tough to right-size the investment in guzzlers and keep the mice out of them for occaisional use. Still recall rewiring the grain trucks each year before harvest, jump-starting or pull-starting them, etc. Anyone know what these EVs might cost?

2) Where do you put an extra vehicle? Garage is full, kid parks in the driveway.

3) Other EVs have weak dealer networks. Subura would have an advantage there...

4) I still cannot buy one.
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Re: Subaru expanding R1e pilot program to NY

These EV's really need to have 100 mile ranges if they ever want to catch on.

So, do you think this Subaru features AWD and a horizontally opposed electric motor?

They need to bring that new diesel engine they made here. Can't believe I haven't seen any articles on it on this website yet either.
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Re: Subaru expanding R1e pilot program to NY

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The comments at the end of the article questions if the car will ever be available here. One comment states that it definitely will not.

The big 3 don't want or need this competing with their profitability. They will figure a way to keep it out, trust me.

The oil industry also sees this as a direct threat to their "windfall profits". They will help the big 3 keep it out.

The car has little or no chance here. They are just too strong.
I might have agreed with you about "The big 3" a few years ago, but as sad as it is, the big 3 don't exist in the capacity that they used to. In fact now that Toyota has bumped Chrysler out of the "big 3", the Big 3 simply does not exist anymore. Furthermore, Toyota owns 9% or so of Subaru, so having the soon to be largest and most profitable car manufacturer in the world backing you, means it stands a very good chance of coming to the US if the demand is there.
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Heck, I could average 1 to 2 WEEKS per charge. It would be great. Is it a 2 seater or just the driver seat?

Problems:

1) It's pretty much an extra vehicle, and, cars being large ticket items, it's a bit tough to right-size the investment in guzzlers and keep the mice out of them for occaisional use. Still recall rewiring the grain trucks each year before harvest, jump-starting or pull-starting them, etc. Anyone know what these EVs might cost?

2) Where do you put an extra vehicle? Garage is full, kid parks in the driveway.

3) Other EVs have weak dealer networks. Subura would have an advantage there...

4) I still cannot buy one.
That would be an interesting poll.

Who can (or will) use one as their sole vehicle vs additional vehicle.

At what price does it become economical as an additional vehicle. Seems I saw prices for the Zenn EV around 15K but they were I believe a lot less capable than the R1e.

Where I'm at another vehicle means 1 goes out on the street a block away, I won't want to do that, even if I could afford one. A Honda Ruckus is a much more affordable option when I don't need the truck. Still haven't replace my bicycle that got stolen last spring.
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Re: Subaru expanding R1e pilot program to NY

As the R1e was developed with Tokyo electric power company TEPCO, which sets a minimum requirement that the EV should have a range of 80km (50miles) and be fast charge capable. As most of TEPCO daily driving distances are low with easy access to fast charge staying close to this specification is important. TEPCO plan to issue a purchase order for 3,000 EVs and the battery itself is probably the largest cost.

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