Insight rapid battey discharge

Right Lane Cruiser · #11 02-08-2008, 11:02 AM

I guess that isn't going to work then.

Euroford · #12 02-08-2008, 12:57 PM

Hi Sean,

This is it's first recal since all the work was done at Honda, so maybe it's just getting it's act together. We'll see if it happens again in the near future. If it does, I'll force the recal as Chuck described above.

Cheers,

Chuck · #13 02-08-2008, 01:18 PM

If it happens more frequently than a month during normal driving, that would be a concern.

I'd just make a mental note of where it starts. For me, I'm safe if 55-60% of the SoC bar is there.

I know this could be up for debate, but some assert a recall every few months is a good thing...I believe it's Honda's position. Several recals a month is definitely bad.

atlaw4u · #14 02-08-2008, 01:22 PM

I've noticed my Insight likes to recalibrate around 50% of SOC so I do what I can to keep it above 50% such as driving routes that have more regen options or turning on headlights during my morning commute to the office.

msantos · #15 02-08-2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta Flyer

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I know this could be up for debate, but some assert a recall every few months is a good thing...I believe it's Honda's position. Several recals a month is definitely bad.

Indeed.

... And if the vehicle has been subjected to recent recalls and servicing I would suggest that the occurrence of these recals multiple times in a month is not abnormal either. I would say that under some circumstances, a weekly recal may not be necessarily bad as in many cases these are also purposely being induced in the newer and recently updated vehicles.
As it turns out, the frequency of recal may no longer be sole determinant of the pack's health. Charge hysteresis among other more discreet module variables and inputs seem to be newly preferred indicators.

I know this may be a little disconcerting for those of us who had the earlier Honda hybrids for a long time, but Honda's engineering group has been actively incorporating many revisions and updates to their battery management profile that reflect a "better understanding" of the SoC management routine.

Around these parts most Insight owners have seen a steady change in SoC behavior and that has left them with no choice but to poke their dealers for answers. These changes occurred as a result of software updates that are often applied discreetly to their vehicles when they go in for regular service. And the word is typically: get used to it.

Cheers;

MSantos

Euroford · #16 02-08-2008, 01:46 PM

My SoC never drops below one or two bars from the top, and I still get the occasional recal. I live in a very flat area with little traffic, which allows me very slow acceleration and slow speeds, so I get very few people "up my bumper".

I'm wondering because I use so little battery power, is this causing the system recal alot?

Dave

Right Lane Cruiser · #17 02-08-2008, 11:38 PM

Dave, I do not believe "disuse" is the cause -- Wayne's Insight never had a recal in all the time he owned it and if anyone was able to leave a pack "untouched" it is he.

HAFNHAF · #18 02-10-2008, 07:37 AM

get a MIMA and make the system do what YOU want it to. i keep regen off while the car is warming up at 25 mph for 4 miles. then i program it for medium assist and light regen on the freeway. generally keeps the pack fully charged, within 25% or so from the top. when the system decides to recal (every couple of months) *I* control how it brings the pack back up, ie: downhill regen only.