Got my SG II yesterday -- What a tool!!

[koreberg]

sweet nos, that will help my fe, just a 1hp jet

[99HXCivic]

Hey Jaysen - maybe you'll have to do the 0-60 measurement with a passenger taking the time, but then it wouldn't compare to my single driver result exactly. Just hope you don't crash when you do a single driver test!

I can't go back to stock intake because I don't have all the missing pieces!

[Blake]

How did this thread talking about a scangauge and using it to get good fuel mileage degrade into a thread talking about how fast cars are. I know I'm just as guilty of getting off-topic as anyone else (probably more so) but seriously... remeber this is a website about getting good fuel mileage and reducing emissions... not racing on public streets.

Really people, driving down public streets trying to get 0-60 times is not only wasteful (and not to mention completely against the purpose of cleanmpg) but its dangerous. Reminds me of the thread talking about speeding...

No one things "big" of you.

If you want to race, so be it, but keep it on the track where your not putting yourself.. not to mention the other people on the road, in danger.


And before you make any comments about driving as fast as you can to 60 mph not being racing, I assure you it most certainly is considered so by law enforcement.

[Blake]

Lets be realistic here... Are you saying your going to go to the track in your car to test your 0-60 for the purpose of testing a short-ram intake? The logical assumption is that this "testing" will be conducted on public roads.

Furthermore, I know of no roads in NC, nor anywhere I've driven, where the posted speed limit is greater than 60 mph that has stop lights where one can accelerate from a dead stop to 60 mph... meaning that you would be not only be breaking the law by exceeding the posted speed limit, but driving in a manor that isn't reasonable and prudent (which by definition is careless and wreckless driving)

I certainly don't want to start a flame war, and after this post I'm done with the converstation, but my BS meter is on full alert. Maybe you and the other member discussing this truely are going to the track to test this, but I very highly doubt it.


To all Cleanmpg members, please excuse this rant. I know its not in the intrest of this forum to have "hostile" communication, but being in the public safety field I feel a certain compulsion to discourage, no condem is a better choice of words, this sort of activity.


Also, Jaysen472, I certainly hope you can understand my valued intrest in this topic. It completely goes against the ideals of this forum to talk about any type of wasteful driving. Rapid acceleration is the exact opposite of the intent of this forum. You don't need to do any type of Dyno testing or 0-60 times to test the FE benifits of any sort of modification. In fact the exact opposite would be used to test its benifits. Any data gathered through such wasteful means would not be useful evaluation as you would be testing it in situations that driving for FE would never see.

All that being said, please stay safe and understand that I only have the best of intentions with this and my previous post.

With respect and kind regaurds,

Blake


EDIT: also, the "no one thinks "big" of you" was not a derogatory comment aimed at you... it was the title of an ad campain directed at speeding.

EDIT #2: Further more, upon reflection of some my recent posts, I have noticed a trend in a zealous nature of my opinions. Its quite apparent to me that I'm getting perhaps to passionate with some controversial topics, to which I intend to reflect a bit more before I click that submit button at the bottom of my post.

All that being said, any discussion of 0-60 times or performance minded modifications is contradictory to the persuit of increasing fuel mileage or reducing emissions. Meaning that it is well within your rights to perform such modifications or drive in such a manor, but it is not within the scope of these forums. I would liken it driving around in a hummer as a daily driver. Perhaps not on the same scale but maybe you get my point. If you or anyone takes offense to my post, I humbly appologize.

Also, to Jaysen472, I also appologize for getting extremely off topic. I have a very bad habit of doing so and certainly isn't very respectful of me to "steal" your thread with this tirade. I think its time for me to take a break from posting for a bit and just read whats going on in the FE world until I can get back in the right mindset of productive communication.

[desdemona]

Originally Posted by Blake

Lets be realistic here... Are you saying your going to go to the track in your car to test your 0-60 for the purpose of testing a short-ram intake? The logical assumption is that this "testing" will be conducted on public roads.

Furthermore, I know of no roads in NC, nor anywhere I've driven, where the posted speed limit is greater than 60 mph that has stop lights where one can accelerate from a dead stop to 60 mph... meaning that you would be not only be breaking the law by exceeding the posted speed limit, but driving in a manor that isn't reasonable and prudent (which by definition is careless and wreckless driving)
Blake

I have stated this before but seriously...
I can't really think of any real world reason for a 0-60 speed. You see/hear it in car magazines, ads, and the like all the time. What is the purpose of it anyway? If you aren't racing there is zero purpose of it. One might like to know a short range acceleration ability, sometimes termed "peppiness" for want of anything better. For instance, can you accelerate from 50-60 easily (though I have almost no use for that either, I recognize the "average" driver does). I *do* pass things today (mostly city buses), but this is quite slow speed "acceleration.

SG doesn't create a 0-60 figure because to achieve FE it is a negative indicator. Every indicator pretty much has something to do with FE when you know what to do with it (although people may use different readings). It is a GREAT tool for FE because you can monitor your FE thru continuous readings. It can (and does) pay for itself.

I notice someone has a Honda CRX, guys you could be pulling some serious FE nos. on this. If it helps think of it as NASCAR in reverse?!



--des

[koreberg]

We will see what I pull, was looking like 42mpg using the guess gauge and trip odometer. Gotten A little cooler for the second half of the tank now, but i'm still have hope that I can break 40. Still got another week worth of driving to do

[99HXCivic]

Hey Blake -

It would interesting for me to compare performance and mpg with Jaysen's HX vs mine because his is all stock whereas mine is modded with a short ram and exhaust. So it's very interesting to compare the effects of these mods on mpg and 0 - 60 times. I hope Jay's 97 has the same weight and hp stats as my car though...

If my car can double as a somewhat speedy sport car by going in the 4000 to 7000 rpm range when accelerating, well I can get rid of my Mazda MX6 as my spare sports car because it would be nice to use that garage space for a 14 ft RV. And it's too expensive insuring and maintaining 3 vehicles!

I don't feel big or try to impress people by speeding, and I'm not one of those bad ******* / speeding drivers on the road. I don't speed often too, and driving 65mph home I get passed up by a lot of speeding Texas drivers so it's too dangerous for me to be slow!

I'm not gonna be one of those extreme hypermilers here because in summer I can't live without A/C. And I do enjoy gunning up my car to merge / speed up to the flow of traffic when an opening occurs. I'm hypermiling mainly to save money at the pump, not to get impressive mpg numbers to boast here... But I do enjoy hypermiling to get good mpgs.

I kinda miss my hopped up 1990 Honda Civic Si with an Ultraflow muffler, Jacobs high energy ignition, and Jackson Racing headers. Might have been a 6.8 second car with 28 mpg pedal to metal driving. So my HX is my replacement for that car. And I'm gonna experiment one week with pedal to metal mpg to see my worst case mpg (without A/C).

I live by a street with a very long distance between lights and it's flat. Early Sunday morning with no cops or cars around I can do a good safe 0-60 test. I just don't want to be caught speeding but the speed limit on that road is 45 mph.

I mostly drive for fuel efficiency anyway but sometimes I need some 0-60 fun too. And I'll try to use my A/C economically, but it gets real hot in Houston. December weather - mostly 60 to 70's here!

Jaysen - I've never heard of a g-tech! Gotta web link?

My short ram is a high quality Weapon - R. But the sponge filter that came with it was terrible and must have shortened the life of my engine.

1997 HX MT 2339 lbs, hp?
1999 HX MT 2370 lbs, 115 hp?, hp modded?

[Jaysen472]

www.gtechpro.com

I don't know if I'm allowed to post a link here, but here it is.

I appologize in advance if anybody does not approve.

[koreberg]

Maybe the only thing useful from that is the shift light, if you can set it to like 2500 rpm. The rest of that is not really appropriate for hypermiling.