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What if you cannot afford a “new” fuel efficient automobile?
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03-05-2009, 12:47 PM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a new fuel efficient automobile?
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Originally Posted by KrazyDawg
I disagree. The 95 Civic EX that I have is in the middle in terms of years but towards the lowest end for fuel efficiency. Combined MPG is 26 by the new EPA. Older and newer civics alike have a higher combined MPG. The VX is a different model and because my engine is a 1.6L VTEC it's not the most efficient compared to other models in the same year. All the other models of 95 with the exception of EX receives better MPG. I drove a 94 Civic LX as a loaner car that had better MPG. In short, one has to do research still even on Civics but they are reliable.
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The statement was not saying civics are the best for fuel economy regardless. There are civics that are more performance oriented, hence losing fuel economy. 26 on the new epa is decent for that time period as my 1999 avenger is worth 21 combined on the new epa 27hwy on old epa.
Wrt my epa ratings, the 95 civic is comparably better as far as economy goes, maybe a few more detailed specs would provide me the info I need to make a better comparison, but time is not really in my favor at this time.
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Re: What if you cannot afford a “new” fuel efficient automobile?
Any chance one of you MPG guru's would be able to do an updated version on this same article? I'm hoping to buy a fuel sipper in the next 12 months or so and would find an updated list very helpful. I can go through and look at autotrader.com for some cars, but it seems like some vehicles can be hypermiled way better than others, so you can't really just look at epa estimates.
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12-17-2011, 10:52 AM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a new fuel efficient automobile?
Have any of you looked at http://www.fueleconomy.gov/ lately?
It has undergone MAJOR CHANGES since October 2011.
Pay special attention to ....
POWER SEARCH http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/powerSearch.jsp
This allows one step search 1984 to present on multiple parameters like ... year range, MSRP (Edmunds 2011 to present), Make, Market Class, Fuel type, Drive, Transmission, Cylinders, and MPG (city, combined, and/or Highway ≥).
Also ... Shared MPG Estimates http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList
I have found these to be VERY POWERFUL resources when considering any NEW ... or ... USED vehicle purchase.
These are very powerful research tools!
My special thanks to those that use My Garage http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do or Tracking Your MPG Just Got Easier
Now you can enter "Your MPG" data at the pump from your mobile device at www.fueleconomy.gov/m!
Particularly when you allow your fuel consumption rate data to be shared with OUR ... NATIONAL KNOWLEDGE BASE of "experienced mpg" ... even if you folks ARE hypermiling.
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12-17-2011, 11:21 AM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a new fuel efficient automobile?
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Originally Posted by 44 mpg by 2010
Have any of you looked at http://www.fueleconomy.gov/ lately?
It has undergone MAJOR CHANGES since October 2011.
Pay special attention to ....
POWER SEARCH http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/powerSearch.jsp
This allows one step search 1984 to present on multiple parameters like ... year range, MSRP (Edmunds 2011 to present), Make, Market Class, Fuel type, Drive, Transmission, Cylinders, and MPG (city, combined, and/or Highway ≥).
Also ... Shared MPG Estimates http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList
I have found these to be VERY POWERFUL resources when considering any NEW ... or ... USED vehicle purchase.
These are very powerful research tools!
My special thanks to those that use My Garage http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do or Tracking Your MPG Just Got Easier
Now you can enter "Your MPG" data at the pump from your mobile device at www.fueleconomy.gov/m!
Particularly when you allow your fuel consumption rate data to be shared with OUR ... NATIONAL KNOWLEDGE BASE of "experienced mpg" ... even if you folks ARE hypermiling.
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I made it to the top of the 2011 Fiesta list on Fueleconomy.gov, but I'm several tanks behind in logging there. I don't like that you can't view individual logs and log comments.
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12-18-2011, 07:46 PM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a new fuel efficient automobile?
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Originally Posted by 44 mpg by 2010
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I hadn't noticed the main site's changes. I tend to use www.fueleconomy.gov/m (the mobile site) if I'm just getting information about one car because it's simple to use and doesn't use JavaScript. It's particularly annoying that the www.fueleconomy.gov site uses external JavaScript APIs.
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04-04-2012, 08:27 AM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a new fuel efficient automobile?
My Jetta was in an accident last night and I think it iwll be totaled by my insurance company.  I will miss it, but this also creates a quandary. I was planning on getting a CODA 150mi range car when they come out in the fall. So, is there a way to do a short term lease, like less than one year?
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04-04-2012, 08:34 AM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a “new” fuel efficient automobile?
I'm sorry to hear that.
I've heard of people selling leases to other people when they want to get out of it early. Possibly you could find one with a year left or you could sell your lease after a year.
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04-11-2012, 03:16 AM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a “new” fuel efficient automobile?
I am in a rental Leaf at the moment. Thought I would give a shorter range EV a try as I psych myself up to buy a CODA.
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04-11-2012, 07:29 AM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a “new” fuel efficient automobile?
How do you like it?
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08-04-2012, 03:48 PM
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Re: What if you cannot afford a “new” fuel efficient automobile?
Economy is complex. I once had a Honda Civic 1.5L hatchback that averaged 38mpg. My family grew so my next car was a Mercury Sable wagon with a 3L V-6 which only got 22mpg. I had each car 5 years. Both cars overall cost me the same to own and operate. Guess which car was nicer?
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