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Old 08-13-2007, 06:16 PM
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Scangauge Tips and Tricks

OK... here's a quick write-up on some SGII tips and tricks.

Calibration
The math may get a bit fuzzy, but I'll try to clod trough it. There are two settings you can set, one is Speed plus or minus whole percents (±1%, ±2%, ±3%...). This effects MPH, DIST, MPG, DISTANCE TO EMPTY (think that's it). So if you see that SGII is reading too low on MPG, DIST, or MPH, then bump up SPEED, till MPH on the gauge and on the dash match (or until DIST on the gauge and on the odometer match).

The other setting you can adjust is in FILLUP and that controls how it monitors fuel use. This is a plus or minus percent meant to get the gallons you put in the tank to match the gallons SG calculated you burned. This effects GPH, MPG, DIST TO EMPTY. So if SG has calculated that less gas was burned than what you just pumped in, the set calibration to some positive percent till they come in line. The manual (search fillup) goes over this to some detail.

Now the interesting part comes when you start comparing your MPG. Since for me the MPG is the most important figure. MPG is Miles/gallon. Another ratio to state it is MPH/GPH (GPH=gallon per hour).

So increasing MPH increases MPG.
Decreasing MPH decreases MPG.
Increasing GPH decreases MPG.
Decreasing GPH increases MPG.

Sounds simple, but it's easy to get mixed up. So if SG reports a lower MPG than we calculate (either at the pump or on the FCD) then we need to increase MPG. We can do this by either increasing (+%) the speed calibration or decreasing (-%) the fillup calibration. And conversely if SG reports a higher MPG than we calculate (either at the pump or on the FCD) then we need to decrease MPG. We can do this by either decreasing (-%) the speed calibration or increasing (+%) the fillup calibration.

Confused yet? I've added a spreadsheet to the uploads section to do the math for you.
ScanGaugeII Calibration Worksheet

Now there is a little trick I found on the FILLUP calibration. I found it best to do FILLUP>DONE without calibrating, then when gallons consumed is 0.0 do FILLUP again (before you start the car), that way you can set the calibration in arbitrary tenths of a percent 1.1%, 1.2% ... etc. Try it on your next tank to see for yourself.

Daisy-Chaining
If you have more than one SGII and want multiple TANK (ie trip) totals, or multiple CURRENT totals, you can hook them up to each other. This is also a nice way to see the trip MPG on one gauge and instantaneous MPG on the other.

To daisy chain, hook up one gauge as you always do, then in the "second" connection spot, run a standard (not crossover) PC network cable from one gauge to the other. Before you try it, I'd recommend setting MODE to AUTO and RATE to SLOW on the car your trying this on. Some protocols are easier to daisy-chain than others, so expect limited results.

EDIT: Added hacks once I got the green flag
Power
Ever long for a power cord for your SGII so you didn't have to go back out to your car with a pen to transcribe data. Turns out they are simple to make.

Edit: Had +/- inverted... fixed it... sorry guys, and thanks to 2002sl2no4 for finding the error


First lets name stuff. Call the button with the red circle around it the HOME key. Now look at the pins that you plug the plug into closest to the home key. Now call the copper wire closest to the home key PIN1 and the wire furthest from the home key (on that connector) PIN8. To power SGII outside of your car, hook a 9v battery too it. <Edit> Negative (-) to PIN1 and Positive (+) to PIN8 </Edit>

Now if you want to record all your TODAY and PREVIOUS DAY trip data, you can simply pull it out of the car and throw it in your pack and power it with your DC power adapter.

Demo Mode
Once you have it hooked to a 9v, you can put it in demo mode. To go into demo mode from the home (connecting) screen.

1) Press MORE>MORE>MORE
2) Press Lower Left button 5 times
3) Press HOME button

I can't think of any use for Demo Mode other than to demo it. One downside is that the miles and gallons the demo-car uses will be added to your totals. So it will pollute your tank, today and previous day trip data. Still kinda fun though. I'm trying to get all my friends interested, so this turns out to be a neat little trick.

Edit: Added a section below
Procrastination Mode
I don't know about you, but I'm all for putting off till tomorrow, what should be done today. On that note, it's always a bit of a chore to sit down and write all my "CURRENT" mpg from trip to trip. "TANK" and "TODAY" I know will still be there when I get back to my car, but once SG goes to sleep, "CURRENT" is gone. So I figured out a way to make "CURRENT" stick (mpg at least), so you can dash into that meeting your late for, rest assured that you can log the data when you get back. Here's how.

1) Right before you power down, just go and peak at the "CURRENT" mpg.
2) Once that screen is up, power-down, and run like mad to catch your meeting.
3) When you return to the car, relaxed, pull out a pen and watch closely when you power up your car. For 1 second, your "CURRENT" mpg is still there.
4) Write it down quickly before it goes away and hypermile home.

I actually use this a lot since my garage is west facing. It gets well over 100 in there when I pull in, and the last thing I want to do is sit in that sauna and jot down figures. I usually catch it after dinner instead.

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Re: Scangauge Tips and Tricks

I was not aware of any other calibration besides the fillup one. Since my trip odometer and the scangauge are off, I will look into the other calibration. That would come in handy since my last tank, I forgot to reset the trip odometer . Thanks for posting this.
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Re: Scangauge Tips and Tricks

Added two more tricks once I had them tested and verified.

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Re: Scangauge Tips and Tricks

is the jack that you plug the power into an rj45 type plug? If so, one could probably make a simple battery connector from parts at radio shack.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search

Kind of expensive to do just one, but the price would be cheaper for 50 or so.
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Re: Scangauge Tips and Tricks

I just did

I went even cheaper though. I pulled some "dead" PC network cables out of the trash at work. Then took a wire cutter and some electrical tape and hooked the right leads up to the right pins.

Presto!

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Re: Scangauge Tips and Tricks

For some reason, that kind of scares me. Perhaps it's the Frankentstein-ishness of the picture.
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OK... figured out the CMNDS stuff. Here's a list of commands you can play with that should work:

0100 - PIDs supported
0101 - Number of trouble codes and I/M info
0103 - Fuel system status
0104 - Calculated engine load value
0105 - Engine coolant temperature
0106 - Short term fuel % trim—Bank 1
0107 - Long term fuel % trim—Bank 1
0108 - Short term fuel % trim—Bank 2
0109 - Long term fuel % trim—Bank 2
010A - Fuel pressure
010B - Intake manifold pressure
010C - Engine RPM
010D - Vehicle speed
010E - Timing advance
010F - Intake air temperature
0110 - MAF air flow rate
0111 - Throttle position
0112 - Sec.(?) air status
0113 - Oxygen sensors present
011C - OBD standards this vehicle conforms to
011F - Run time since engine start
0120 - PIDs supported 21-40
0121 - Distance traveled with malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) on
0122 - Fuel Rail Pressure (relative to manifold vacuum)
0123 - Fuel Rail Pressure (diesel)
012C - Commanded EGR
012D - EGR Error
012E - Commanded evaporative purge
012F - Fuel Level Input
0130 - # of warm-ups since codes cleared
0131 - Distance traveled since codes cleared
0132 - Evap. System Vapor Pressure
0133 - Barometric pressure
0140 - PIDs supported 41-60 (?)
0141 - Monitor status this drive cycle
0142 - Control module voltage
0143 - Absolute load value
0144 - Command equivalence ratio
0145 - Relative throttle position
0146 - Ambient air temperature
0147 - Absolute throttle position B
0148 - Absolute throttle position C
0149 - Accelerator pedal position D
014A - Accelerator pedal position E
014B - Accelerator pedal position F
014C - Commanded throttle actuator
014D - Time run with MIL on
014E - Time since trouble codes cleared
0902 - Vehicle identification number (VIN)

More info on the whole conversation at PriusChat here.

More info on PIDs and how they are used here

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OK ,,, so what am I going to do with this info.

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OK ,,, so what am I going to do with this info.

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0133 - Barometric pressure

Low pressure yields less air resistance = better MPG. Help me to correlate low MPG days with high pressure fronts (couldn't be anything else ). To bad Toyota didn't support PID 33.

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