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Dealers call Tesla factory stores illegal

The National Automobile Dealers Association says 48 states prohibit or restrict factory ownership of dealerships.

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Amy Wilson - AUTONEWS - October 8, 2012

These laws seem out of date --Ed.

After opening several stores without much pushback, Elon Musk's ambition to replicate the Apple experience in Tesla factory stores is now facing potential roadblocks.

Dealer associations in a handful of states, and state regulators in at least one case, say Tesla's stores violate state franchise laws that prohibit factory ownership of dealerships. Electric-vehicle maker Tesla now operates 17 stores in 10 states and the District of Columbia, most in shopping malls. Another six are scheduled to open this fall.

The protesting dealer associations say Tesla's factory-owned stores present unfair competition for rival dealerships, are inconvenient for consumers needing repairs and, if left unchallenged, ultimately threaten the franchise system.

"If a manufacturer sees that Tesla is successful with this kind of business model, who's to say they don't break out their own EV product lines and create a separate system that bypasses dealers?" said Bob O'Koniewski, executive vice president of the Massachusetts State Automobile Dealers Association. "It's extremely problematic."

The New York State Automobile Dealers Association, concerned about just such an occurrence, recently asked dealer lawyer Leonard Bellavia to write a report for an upcoming newsletter on the threat of BMW using a direct-to-consumer model to retail its upcoming i-car line of electric vehicles. BMW has said it intends to distribute its i-cars through U.S. franchised dealers.

Tesla says it is doing whatever it takes to comply with state and local laws.... [Read More]
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What was the point of a dealership again?.. a local face representing a distant factory?
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We have too many laws in this country. I would love to take delivery of my next car or motorcycle right off the truck and bypass the stealership altogether.
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Re: Dealers call Tesla factory stores illegal

Agreed. I wish I could order a car like I order a Dell instead of depending on what dealers have on their lots.
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What was the point of a dealership again?
Grabbing an extra layer of mark-up, which they maintain by buying legislators.

Buying a car would be a lot less stressful if we didn't have to cope with salesmen and the games they play.
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Grabbing an extra layer of mark-up, which they maintain by buying legislators.

Buying a car would be a lot less stressful if we didn't have to cope with salesmen and the games they play.
It was pretty stress-free when I bought my Insight 2.5 years ago. I contacted the dealer by email. We traded a few messages back and forth and then agreed on a price. I came in and signed the papers and drove out with my new hybrid with less than one hour actually spent at the dealership.
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It was pretty stress-free when I bought my Insight 2.5 years ago. I contacted the dealer by email. We traded a few messages back and forth and then agreed on a price. I came in and signed the papers and drove out with my new hybrid with less than one hour actually spent at the dealership.
That is a very uncommon experience at a dealer. I agreed to a price in advance on the FIT and it still took 4 hours and they still tried to sell me all of that add-on BS. We did get free hot dogs and popcorn, though.

I think Telsa should be able to service their customers any way they see fit. I don't think car dealers should have any special protections under the law. I think the public has a poor perception of most car dealerships so hopefully that law will change.
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Oh no! Someone/thing is threatening our business model. It must be illegal!
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How the heck did they get that honey law put on the books in the first place?
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How the heck did they get that honey law put on the books in the first place?
They rented a politician?

Your honey comment reminded me of my favorite tv star, Honey Boo Boo.. yes my friends think Alzheimers hit early

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