User Name Password    
CleanMPG, Learn to raise fuel economy and lower emissions in whatever you drive.  
MENU
• What is hypermiling? •
CleanMPG to AAA:
• Hypermiling Rebuttal •
 
Home
CleanMPG Staff
Articles
Fuel Economy Forums
      • Register
Go Hypermiling!

   Car Reviews:

2013 Elantra GT

2013 Elantra Coupe

2013 Lexus ES 300h

2013 Mazda CX-5


2013 Lexus GS 450h

2012 Prius c

2013 Malibu Eco

2012 Hyundai Accent
   Bike and Gear Reviews:

HTC Thunderbolt

2010 R 1200 GS (A)

Kawasaki KLX250SF

Zero S


Aerostich Darien

Shoei Hornet DS

Honda CRF230L

Yamaha XT250


More Reviews
Gallery
Mileage Logs
 
CleanMPG Store
 
Calendar
Glossary
Garage
Files
 
Research
Related Sites
 
Archives
Arcade
 
Monthly Fuel Efficient •
Vehicle Sales Figures


ScanGauge with X-Gauge: $159.95

Pre-programming, a CleanMPG laser cut decal, and shipping included!



Even better value for members only is available in the latest SG-II w/ X-Gauge Group Buy purchase thread.



While we strive to provide only the highest quality information through our members' offerings, if you find the information provided valuable, please consider a donation so that we can offer an even better experience for the membership and guests well into the future.

Thank you

-Wayne Gerdes
Owner/Admin
CleanMPG



Home Fuel Economy Forums Gallery Mileage Logs

Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   CleanMPG Forums » Information » In the News


In the News News items that may be of interest. These show up on the front page.
Only Moderators may start threads, but anyone can respond to them.

Welcome to the CleanMPG forums.

Some posts may describe situations which may in some cases be unsafe or illegal in some jurisdictions. Please use common sense and consult your local laws to make sure you do not hurt yourself or others or break any laws.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view discussions, articles and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-09-2012, 10:28 AM
xcel's Avatar
xcel xcel is offline
PZEV, there's nothing like it :)
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Vehicles: Accord, Ranger, and anything else ;)
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 42,677
100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

That would be 100 mph and 100 mile all-electric range thanks to Brammo’s latest bikes.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/Brammo_Empulse.jpg
Wayne Gerdes - CleanMPG - May 9, 2012

Brammo Empulse – Brammo has come a long way in a short period of time.

Our last ride of an all-electric bike, the Zero-S back in 09, proved to be anything but inspiring. No fuel consumption is great but when the vehicle cannot keep up with standard traffic (i.e. slower than while between the limits) and its range is radically impaled at those speeds, you know there are problems.

And then there was Brammo. They too had range and top speed issues early on. Worst yet, they have built some of most hideous all-electric streetable bikes known to the motorcycle community.

Anyone remember the Enertia?

Enertia: The Ultra-Clean, All-Electric Motorcycle

Brammo drops the price of its Enertia BEM by $4,000

YUCK!


Promise and hideous in the same sentence.

That is about to all change.

Brammo in a PR revealed pricing and production plans for its all-new Empulse and Empulse R while providing enthusiasts in LA a first look at the new design.

Brammo has made advances in electric motorcycling but this is a first. That being a 100-mile all-electric range and 100-mph top speed.

Two models

Empulse - The body work is all plastic, has semi adjustable front suspension and semi adjustable rear suspension.

Empulse R - Carbon fiber for headlight shroud, front and rear fenders, top panel and the rear light housing.

Pricing

Brammo will be pricing the Empulse and Empulse R at $16,995 and $18,995 respectively.

Production for the Empulse R will take place first with limited availability in June 2012 and in volume by Q3 2012. The Empulse will be available in Q1 2013.

The Brammo pair arrive with a water-cooled AC motor and fully integrated IET six speed transmission, seating for two, regenerative braking and on board J1772 Level 2 charging capability.

In a prepared statement, Craig Bramsher, CEO and President of Brammo sid the following:
Quote:
"From concept to production the Empulse product has evolved quite a bit. We are bringing you a different motorcycle that promises to be more than what our riders expected."
Brammo Empulse and Empulse R Specifications

6 speed gearbox
3kW J1772 Level 2 charging
Water cooled and sealed motor
BPM 15/90 Battery Module <-- Not sure who makes it but those details are probably unimportant right now.
Regenerative braking
Speedo, tach, range prediction, gear position, directional’s and SoC
Dynamic Data Collection – A black box records all on bike functions second by second to create a complete picture of every ride and charge.

Front Suspension - Marzocchi
Brakes - Brembo
Wheels - Marchesini
Frame - Brammo E-Beam fabricated in Italy by Accossato.
Tires - Avon.
Styling - A naked street bike

What I find even more interesting is all the green and performance sites on the net clambering all over the Brammo PR when probably < 2% of them even ride. WTF is a matter with that?
__________________

Last edited by xcel : 05-09-2012 at 02:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-09-2012, 11:36 AM
atlaw4u atlaw4u is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Vehicles: 2000 Honda Insight
Location: Durango, CO
Posts: 2,782
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

I like everything but the price.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-09-2012, 04:09 PM
antrey's Avatar
antrey antrey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Vehicles: '99 Accord LX 4cyl Auto, '06 Honda VFR800
Location: El Paso, Tx
Posts: 481
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

The CEO is absolutely right in that it's lots more than I expected....ALOT MORE EXPENSIVE!! That's a ridiculous price. I've been watching closely with great hope. The initial prices for the Empulse on their website started at $9995 and added a few thousand at increasing battery sizes. This is almost double the price. I don't blame them though, as these price points are likely the only way they can make any money on them, too bad they likely won't sell many until battery tech gets an order of magnitude cheaper.
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #4   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-09-2012, 04:29 PM
southerncannuck's Avatar
southerncannuck southerncannuck is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Vehicles: 2007 Honda Fit Sport Auto 2010 Honda SH150I scooter
Location: Ormond Beach FL
Posts: 1,066
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

I agree. That's about half the price of a Volt or Leaf. There's no way that the batteries cost them that much.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-09-2012, 04:30 PM
EdwinTheMagnificent EdwinTheMagnificent is offline
Legend In His Mind
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Vehicles: 2008 Honda Civic LX auto
Location: near Chicago IL
Posts: 1,720
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

I thought the price on my VFR750 was ridiculous until , years later , I saw the price of the VFR800.
__________________
Edwin
Reply With Quote
  #6   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-09-2012, 04:44 PM
herm herm is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,464
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

I'm with you guys.. I refuse to pay any more than $3k per wheel.
Reply With Quote
  #7   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-09-2012, 05:24 PM
Earthling's Avatar
Earthling Earthling is offline
Trying to be kind to Mother Earth
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Vehicles: '07 Prius, '10 Focus, '03 BMW R1150RT
Location: Somewhere, NY
Posts: 2,886
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

If I was spending that much money, it would be on a BMW R1200RT, a top of the line touring bike. That's why I own a bike, to go on long road trips, although I also use it for around town errands and short joy rides on the weekends in the nearby countryside. An electric bike simply isn't versatile enough to suit my needs.

If you restricted yourself to a range of 100 miles, you could get by with a much cheaper dual purpose bike that would give you 80 mpg or better.

Harry
Reply With Quote
  #8   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-09-2012, 08:40 PM
chilimac02's Avatar
chilimac02 chilimac02 is offline
Bible Scholar, Environmentalist
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Vehicles: 2001 Honda Accord; 2009 Honda Pilot
Location: Weatherford, TX
Posts: 733
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

If you factor mpg per person then passenger cars are way more efficient....
__________________
-Justin



My Bible and Technology Blog: www.bible-tech.com

Reply With Quote
  #9   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-10-2012, 06:17 PM
Earthling's Avatar
Earthling Earthling is offline
Trying to be kind to Mother Earth
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Vehicles: '07 Prius, '10 Focus, '03 BMW R1150RT
Location: Somewhere, NY
Posts: 2,886
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

Quote:
Originally Posted by chilimac02 View Post
If you factor mpg per person then passenger cars are way more efficient....
Only when they have passengers. Most cars on the road, probably 80 percent, have one person onboard, the driver.

Harry
Reply With Quote
  #10   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 02-20-2013, 09:35 AM
Logans07HondaFitty's Avatar
Logans07HondaFitty Logans07HondaFitty is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Vehicles: 2007 Honda Fit S
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 30
Re: 100 – Triple Digits and the Holy Grail Rolled Into One…

If you haven't seen one in person these bikes are beautiful for what they are. Very well done and very clean for being a bike with a E-motor and lots of battery.
__________________
Logan Wild

http://www.loganwildphoto.com
Michelin Tires 40psi, Ultra Gauge
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
END OF LINE FOR PONTIAC: Last G6 rolled off Wed Chuck In the News 0 11-26-2009 01:24 PM
Can you drop the decimal place when MPG reaches 3 digits? TheForce Website news & discussions 7 11-26-2008 12:04 PM
More digits to current-trip consumption display? Shrek ScanGauge 4 04-10-2008 11:34 AM
Holy Grail of Clean Engines? Chuck Emissions 5 10-08-2006 02:32 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2013, Clean MPG LLC. All Rights Reserved.