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04-15-2012, 07:15 AM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
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My carburetor has been perfectly happy guzzling E10, so far. I'd be afraid of E15, though.
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Is this a car or a lawnmower?.. I'm referring to the gas in the tank picking up moisture from the air. My brother keeps E10 in his generator for months and I dont think its a good idea with a vented gas cap.
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04-15-2012, 10:03 AM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
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Is this a car or a lawnmower?..
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The same car referenced in the heading of my posts. Cars haven't had vented caps since the 60s.
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04-15-2012, 10:39 AM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
The 81 Mazda may have issues with gaskets.. gasohol was around back then so I doubt it... 15% may lean out the engine too much. You can always get a carb rebuild kit... then you have corrosion issues with all the moisture to deal with.
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04-15-2012, 10:44 AM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
My 81 Buick's manual says not to use ethanol blends exceeding 10%. Add to that a 30+ year old fuel system, and I think anything more than E10 would eat it up.
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04-15-2012, 10:51 AM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
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The same car referenced in the heading of my posts. Cars haven't had vented caps since the 60s.
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My 70 Challenger is open, the cap seals but there is just a overflow tube at the top of the filler neck, an open system. I think in 1971 it went to a closed system, maybe 1972.
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04-15-2012, 11:11 AM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
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My 70 Challenger is open, the cap seals but there is just a overflow tube at the top of the filler neck, an open system. I think in 1971 it went to a closed system, maybe 1972.
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That may be correct; I oversimplified because I wasn't sure of the exact year vented caps and equivalent open venting like your Challenger's were banned by tightening limits on evaporative emissions. It was around that time. I think my parents' '71 Dodge Coronet had some sort of closed system, but can't recall whether it used a carbon canister. My '72 Subaru had no canister, and got by with venting the fuel tank through a long tube into the air cleaner housing. My '81 Mazda has the canister, as did all cars by then.
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04-15-2012, 11:30 AM
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04-16-2012, 09:06 AM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
I'm currently using StaBil Marine, which lists ethanol as one of its targets. A little lasts a long time so the cost is minimal.
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04-16-2012, 03:41 PM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
I tried ethanol free gas in my '88 Escort for a few tanks last year and didn't see any increase in day to day driving gas mileage. I use Stabil in my motorcycle for long term winter storage.
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04-22-2012, 07:50 PM
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Re: ethanol free fuel - who uses it
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I use E10 because that's all they sell in my area.  My mileage is down about 3% from it.
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Go to pure-gas.org for addresses & a great zoomable map for ethanol free gas stations in your area. There is one station in Longview, TX on the NW perimeter of your city selling 87 octane ethanol-free gasoline at Texas Auto Care, 1100 Pinetree Road, Longview, TX. I'm pretty sure your mpg loss is greater than 3%, as thousands of drivers will attest. With careful records of years of use of 10% ethanol, I found 100% gasoline & switched our 3 cars to it. Our 3 cars' mpg increased 8%, 7-8%, & 6%. As others have stated here, our 3 car engines were smoother, quieter, more often ascended hills without shifting down & responded quicker to pedal adjustments.
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