2012 Prius c Specifications

[Right Lane Cruiser]

That's mighty interesting info, Wayne. I'd really like to try one to see what it is worth on my turf.

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

There is a new mode that consumes fuel but runs about 1,050 RPM where you can drive down the highway at 112 mpg per an uncalibrated SG-II. Like SHM in the gen III with a full SoC but the RPM is lower and the FE is higher.

Technique, I dub thee SDHM.

(Super Duper Highway Mode )

[greenrider]

Originally Posted by msirach

I have personal experience long term in the GenII, GenIII, Insight I and Insight II. I haven't driven a Prius c yet, but with all that I have seen and heard, the Prius c would be my pick. The Insight II is my least favorite.

I agree, and I'm an I2 owner as well.

Honda just doesn't have it any more. Between bad batteries, lack of features and just uncompetitive vehicles.

[BillLin]

Checked local inventory yesterday. Saw a model I, II and IV (if I recall correctly).

Cheers,
Bill

[WriConsult]

If not for the reliability concerns I still might consider an Insight over a Prius c:

1. The Prius c two is still $1730 more than the base Insight.
2. The Insight will be considerably more capable with most of the cargo I carry, especially my dog and longer items like bikes and skis.

That said, I still expect the c to decimate sales of the Insight.

[xcel]

Hi Dan:

You would be wasting your $'s as you can fit bikes and such in the c. It is larger, more fuel efficient and less expensive than the HI-II.

And of course our 60 mile 99% all-highway round trip drive in a the c last month…

2012 Toyota Prius c Preview

Initial top off location, aFCD display, final top off with 0.702 gallons
consumed and final fill location at the same Shell as initial top off.

100% highway Round Trip Drive Route


2012 Toyota Prius c Preview: Round trip fuel economy calibration drive route from Leucadia, CA Shell to Christianitas Rd. Exit in San Clemente and back again. 59.5 miles actual -- 59.2 miles displayed.

The second and third gen Prius’ let alone anything else out on the super slab do not stand a chance against the Prius c.

59.5 miles/.702 gallons = 84.758 mpgUS

aFCD displayed: 85.6 mpgUS or a very respectable and very small 0.9% over report.

Just wait until you get the c on your own daily grind as 100 mpg is going down hard

Wayne

[RedylC94]

Originally Posted by xcel

You would be wasting your $'s as you can fit bikes and such in the c. It is larger, more fuel efficient and less expensive than the HI-II.

And of course our 60 mile 99% all-highway round trip drive in a the c last month…

What was your average speed on that round trip drive, approximately?
Can I get a 61 cm bike, or two of them, in a C without disassembly and without crowding my passenger out? (I can in my Mazda.)

Barring a collapse in fuel prices, I'm afraid the C will be so popular that it won't be possible to buy one anywhere near list price for at least a couple of years. That might be longer than I can wait.

[xcel]

Hi RedylC94:

Between the PSL on California's I-5.

I can fit most of a single bedroom in the MDX without disassembly too but it is not going to allow but a third of the efficiency the c is.

The c is larger than the Mazda GLC Wagon for people (87 cu. ft vs. 80 cu. ft of passenger volume), far safer, better equipped and provides at least double the fuel economy if you are driving the stick. 60% more if you are driving the 3-speed AT. I looked up the specs for an 84 so your 81 may be different??? In terms of cargo cap, the c has just 17 cu. ft vs. 30 cu. ft of cargo volume of the GLC Wagon. If you need more room, the v at 97/32 cu.ft. of passenger and cargo volume respectively is large enough for most family’s needs while still providing double the fuel economy of an 85 GLS Wagon.

Prius c rear cargo cap with seats down.

If I were going to carry bikes once every few days, weeks or months, I would buy a small bike hitch for the c and use it only when I was going to need it but that is me.

I hope that helps?

Wayne

[WriConsult]

(double post)

[WriConsult]

Wayne, you're arguing with ME about MY needs ... AGAIN?! I acknowledge that in most respects that the c is the better car. Have you made up in your mind that it's so much superior (as with the expensive Leaf vs. the more affordable iMiEV) that the "lesser" is NEVER worth considering by ANYBODY with different needs and a tighter budget than yourself?

Originally Posted by xcel

You would be wasting your $'s as you can fit bikes and such in the c. It is larger

EPA volume measurements aside, the Insight's cargo area is more than half a foot longer than that of the c. To you our cargo requirements might seem some vague "bikes and such," but the devil is in the details. We're talking about the difference between my wife sitting comfortably with a bike behind her and being smashed up against the dashboard. The longer Insight can carry several more bags than the c, and I'm sure our 190cm skis would be a tricky fit.

We could just barely (and I do mean barely) make the Insight work for us on a family roadtrip, with all 4 of us and enough camping gear for self sufficiency in cool conditions. Even in the Insight we'd be losing all visibility out the rear window. The Prius c, on the other hand, would NOT WORK AT ALL. Four occupants plus our stuff DO NOT FIT. Period. The c for us would have to justify its position in our "commuter car" slot, whereas the Insight can satisfy either the "commuter car" or "roadtrip car" requirement.

Originally Posted by xcel

, more fuel efficient and less expensive than the HI-II.

Yes, it's wonderful that the c would get better mileage, especially in local driving. But the Insight (at available discounts) is just at the very, VERY high end of our price range. Its fuel savings vs. other cars would have justified the difference for us vs. a non-hybrid last year (if not for the tsunami), but the c's additional $1730 (per MSRP -- actual difference likely greater) shatters our $18k ceiling and does not justify itself.

Maybe you find the Prius c to be "cheaper" then the Insight when loaded up with the options you consider essential, but please remember that your needs are not the same as everyone else's. I can live with the equipment level of the base Insight. Even if you can't.