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96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
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04-15-2007, 12:22 PM
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96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
I don't have a hybrid car yet, but I do want to get better mileage from my car. Any ideas or technique for this older model? I know of the Pulse and Glide (accelerating to 5 over and then gliding to 5 under, and so on), but are there any other tips or things that I have missed?
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04-15-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
You haven't mentioned inflating your tires to max sidewall or as high as you are comfortable with. That is one way to get a big improvement.
What is your commute like? Knowing the details of your daily drive is essential to helping you find the right techniques to use to get better fuel economy.
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04-15-2007, 12:47 PM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
Leo,
You have an excellent car to work with with a very efficient VTEC engine. Somewhere here is a link of ABC Nightline talking about the 50mpg+ 1991 Civic...while Detroit screams they can't do it (just like today).
1996 was a good year - it's likely under your dash or glove compartment you have a OBD II connector. If so, you can plug in www.scangage.com to the FE, air temp, coolant temp, etc readouts.
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04-15-2007, 03:20 PM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
Ok thanks for that. I also saw the thread on the 96 Honda, which I am reading through. I have always wondered about dropping into Neutral during a drive - does the conserve? I am not talking about FAS and turning off the car, I am talking about just dropping into Neutral if I am gliding - will this help or not really?
I don't commute very far, so it isn't an issue, maybe 5-10 minutes. I am trying the P&G technique and I like the readout meter you suggested, but still a bit steep for a newbie.
Do you know where that ABC Nightline link is?
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04-15-2007, 03:31 PM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
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Ok thanks for that. I also saw the thread on the 96 Honda, which I am reading through. I have always wondered about dropping into Neutral during a drive - does the conserve? I am not talking about FAS and turning off the car, I am talking about just dropping into Neutral if I am gliding - will this help or not really?
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You would be using more gas if the engine is still running because the momentium is not allowed to help if you are in neutral. FAS works because the ICE is complex and it's numerous moving parts adds up to a considerable amount of friction.
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04-15-2007, 04:03 PM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
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Originally Posted by Leo Mandy
Ok thanks for that. I also saw the thread on the 96 Honda, which I am reading through. I have always wondered about dropping into Neutral during a drive - does the conserve? I am not talking about FAS and turning off the car, I am talking about just dropping into Neutral if I am gliding - will this help or not really?
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The purpose of neutral coasting is to extend coast times longer than coasting in gear.
Sometimes it is helpful, but if you have fuel cut while coasting in gear it might not actually be better. Without some sort of feedback it is hard to tell. Also, be careful with neutral coasting as some transmissions act different than others when you re-engage them.
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04-15-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
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Great forum!
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Absolutly, I agree !!
I think everything mentionned in the site except for the specific things related to the "electricity" are relevant.
The Scangauge mentionned by Delta flyer is a very good idea, I will install one in my wife's car, a 1996 civic also, a good vintage as said.
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04-16-2007, 08:27 AM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
I drive a 96 civic. What engine do you have? Mine's the DX, non-VTEC.
I have a scangauge, and I find that engine-off is better IF it'll be off for 10 seconds or more. It takes more fuel to shut off and restart than to idle for those 10 seconds. You can get some good numbers just neutral-coasting. Mine uses about .3 GPH idling once it's warmed up. At 45mph, that's 150 mpg! My approach is 2-stage: clutch in for shorter glides wherever I possibly can (10 sec pulse, 10 sec glide or adjusting to traffic) and engine-off coming up to lights or longer downhill glides.
I also have a piece of cardboard behind the front grill, blocking the radiator a bit. With your short commute, your engine hardly has time to warm up. This would help it get to efficient operating temperature earlier in the drive.
Absolutely, pump your tires up to the max on the sidewall. Mine are rated 44psi and I have them at 50.
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04-16-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
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Do you know where that ABC Nightline link is?
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Nightline 1991: 51mpg Civic DX - 100mpg Coupe - Detroit Fights EPA
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04-16-2007, 11:09 AM
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Re: 96 Honda Civic - how can I get better mileage?
Oh, and the OBD-II plug is under the dash by your left shin.
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