|
|
In the News News items that may be of interest. These show up on the front page.
Only Moderators may start threads,
but anyone can respond to them. |
Welcome to the CleanMPG forums.
Some posts may describe situations which may in some cases be unsafe or illegal in some jurisdictions. Please use common sense and consult your local laws to make sure you do not hurt yourself or others or break any laws. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view discussions, articles and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.
|
"UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
 |
|
11-05-2010, 09:10 AM
|
 |
Beat The System
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Vehicles: 2009 Fit, 2004 Odyssey, 96 Civic retired
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 12,778
|
|
|
Re: "UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
__________________
Andrew
----
100 mpg commute / 90.2 mpg tank = 1191 miles
|
11-05-2010, 12:13 PM
|
|
Veteran
|
|
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,529
|
|
|
Re: "UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
Heck, you could charge admission for an up close look at a wind farm.They are really cool looking-alien looking at night.
At night, in thunderstorms with lightening strobing-they are downright spooky! Sell tickets to them!
|
11-05-2010, 01:52 PM
|
|
Moderator
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Vehicles: '11 Elantra Touring, '00 bioTDI Golf, Bikes, Light Rail
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 5,301
|
|
|
Re: "UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
ELECTION UPDATE: Union County, OR, just voted (in a non-binding referendum) 52-48% AGAINST a proposed new wind farm:
http://ecotrope.opb.org/2010/11/vote...nty-wind-farm/
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by OPB
Earlier this year, Union County commissioners were barraged by complaints about how 164 proposed wind turbines would “industrialize” the postcard pretty Western landscape. So the county placed an unusual question on the general election ballot. It asks voters in this corner of eastern Oregon whether they support or oppose a big new wind farm called Antelope Ridge
|
Some background articles:
http://www.oregonlive.com/environmen...in_oregon.html
http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2010/...-union-county/ |
11-05-2010, 02:07 PM
|
|
Beat The System
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Vehicles: 2009 Fit, 2004 Odyssey, 96 Civic retired
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 12,778
|
|
|
Re: "UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
To my mind, that's a poorly worded poll question. Our population is growing and our per capita energy demands are increasing at a crazy rate. It's not a matter of IF extra power supply is needed, but what form it will take. The question should have asked WHICH form of power generation is preferred. (NIMBY is not one of the choices)
__________________
Andrew
----
100 mpg commute / 90.2 mpg tank = 1191 miles
|
11-05-2010, 05:23 PM
|
 |
PZEV, there's nothing like it :)
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2006
Vehicles: Accord, Ranger, and anything else ;)
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 42,640
|
|
|
Re: "UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
Hi Andrew:
I agree. Hydro is tapped and solar is too expensive. Let alone a day time use (when the sun shines) thing anyway. That leaves Coal, NG and Nukes... If you have ever heard a NG plant turbine spinning up, I would much prefer the woosh woosh of a wind turbine vs. that drone anywhere near me all day and night long.
It is only a matter of time when those same voters can decide they do not need power for a few hours per day or live with an environmentally irresponsible or responsible method of “keeping the lights on”
Wayne
__________________
|
11-05-2010, 06:04 PM
|
|
Moderator
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Vehicles: '11 Elantra Touring, '00 bioTDI Golf, Bikes, Light Rail
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 5,301
|
|
|
Re: "UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
My understanding is this ballot measure was framed as, "Do you approve of your irresponsible federal and state gubmints spending your tax dollars to build these things with blinky red lights in your backyard?" No surprise the answer you'll get if you ask a question like that in eastern Oregon.
|
11-05-2010, 08:37 PM
|
|
Veteran
|
|
Join Date: May 2007
Vehicles: 03 Ranger(mostly), 07 Aveo(sometimes), 96 Taurus(occasionally), 01 saturn SL1 (rarely)
Location: NW IL
Posts: 2,759
|
|
|
Re: "UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoebeisis
Heck, you could charge admission for an up close look at a wind farm.... Sell tickets to them!
|
To me no doubt. One month ago I thought I would be able to tour the inside of the large wind turbine at our local high school by tagging along with my wife and a bunch of other physics teachers. The tour fell through because the company doing turbine O&M removed needed safety gear so they could prevent the tour. 
To me it looks like the wind turbine industry is piling up inventory because demand has slackened. Next time Wayne drives by Davenport, IA, on the way to Iowa City, I can give him directions to a photo op at the large wind turbine construction staging yard at the former Caterpillar plant that's located about 3 miles off I-80. ( BTW...It's not my photo op because the property owner is a client.) Last time I was there they probably had two or three hundred blades parked there.
__________________
|
11-06-2010, 06:59 AM
|
|
Beat The System
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2007
Vehicles: 2009 Fit, 2004 Odyssey, 96 Civic retired
Location: Longview, TX
Posts: 12,778
|
|
|
Re: "UnBell the Wind Turbines?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by WriConsult
My understanding is this ballot measure was framed as, "Do you approve of your irresponsible federal and state gubmints spending your tax dollars to build these things with blinky red lights in your backyard?" No surprise the answer you'll get if you ask a question like that in eastern Oregon.
|
Right. They had a specific response in mind when they asked. That the 48% still voted in favor could be read as a resounding YES vote.
__________________
Andrew
----
100 mpg commute / 90.2 mpg tank = 1191 miles
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
