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Old 01-25-2011, 01:34 PM
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Looking for something smart, and quirky.

Since my CR-Z is now gone, I'm without a vehicle. So since I no longer have to instruct people on how to drive anymore, I can go back to buying cheap, quirky cars for a bit of fun, and maximum economy. Thus, I'm thinking of buying a smart cdi.

I checked out smartzuuk's site, with many smart articles and I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. I have a few questions though before I decide to buy a used smart fortwo, and those would be;

1) What are the common problems associated with the smart, what usually fails, how often does it have its time of the month and so on. (C'mon guys, you know what I mean :P)

2) How do they handle on the highway? Do they get knocked about, and do they struggle to maintain speeds between 50 to 70mph?

3) How cheap are parts, and how common are they to come by? All repairs I would do myself anyways, I hate taking cars into the stealers. Besides, with a car that small, i could probably lift it.

4) I live in a land of many, many hills. How will it handle them?

5) How cheap are the plastic body panels anyways?
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:02 AM
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

I can help with some of your questions, although my smart is a couple of generations old - built in 2002.

1. I've had a few problems with mine, but nothing that couldn't be sorted out eventually. No idea whether my experience is typical though. Your best bet is to check out www.evilution.co.uk and www.fq101.co.uk - two UK-based smart enthusiast websites with loads of info on fortwos and roadsters.

2. Mine is pretty uncomfortable on the highway. The short wheelbase and tall stance mean that it gets unsettled by crosswinds, passing trucks, and unevenness of the road surface. I believe the new ones are better with their longer wheelbase and softer suspension, but I'd definitely recommend a short run on the highway to see if you'd be comfortable with it. Or just avoid the highway and stick to ~50mph on back roads - my smart is excellent in those conditions. Speed wise, it'll keep up with the traffic, but it's definitely not fast (mine is petrol - not sure how the diesel is on the highway).

3. I believe UK is a good place to be when it comes to smart parts. You can get them from the dealer or some independent places. Check out the abovementioned websites for leads.

4. Hills are no problem in my petrol smart. Diesel - who knows? I'm sure you'll get to the top eventually.

5. No experience with body panels.

Hope this helps,
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:33 AM
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

I would have to agree with Smart Za on highway travel, not really great in the smart even with the newer model, which is why i ended up trading in for the Insight. I have not had any repairs, but only 14k on the clock. I did do a panel change, paid 550 for the panels shipped (used but in great condition) and sold my panels for 450 (they paid for shippingh). Changing the panels my first time was a full day and I would not want to do it again. Not sure what price or other changes there are for the older smart, but if you check the local forum like Smart Za mentioned, there is quite a bit of information available from people who have done panel changes as well as know issues with the car.

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Old 01-28-2011, 08:32 AM
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

Well I did a test drive today of one of the new smarts. And whilst I eeked out a decent 89mpgUK during the test drive, I didn't exactly fall in love with it. Its a brilliant little car, but the missus has veto'd getting it. Since I want something small, decided to go for the diesel Toyota Yaris (Echo) 3 door hatchback on somewhere around a 2002 plate. Pretty good value if I were to get one at only around 2,000 - 2,500 GBP. Pretty good compromise considering shes wanting a big bloody Vauxhall Vectra Estate.
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

We've an Irish member with one of those IIRC.
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

username vtec-e, maybe? I think you're right.
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

Correct — his name is Ollie. Might want to contact him for impressions?
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

A local used car dealer has one that I'm going to take a look at on Monday, with my trusted torch in hand, so I'll find out for myself. From reviews I've read online, I'm already getting some positive impressions of it.

Ideally, I'd just get the Civic diesel, but I don't want to put down that kind of money when I'm planning a move to the US in a few years and wanting to save my money. Of course the other half isn't all that warm on the move to the US since she wants to be a lawyer here. Another fight I'll end up loosing most likely haha.
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

Ah too bad, the smart cdi is fun and has some known issues, like any car. With a convertible top and wide tires and wheels, it's a potent combination of fun and (still) massive fuel economy.
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Re: Looking for something smart, and quirky.

Yaris diesel, civic diesel, smart diesel..ARGGGHHHHHHH

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