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Nissan and GM Launch their Electric Cars; LEAF to Cost Almost $10K Less than Volt

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Nissan and GM Launch their Electric Cars; LEAF to Cost Almost $10K Less than Volt



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Leaf or Volt? --Ed.

The Plug-In 2010 Conference in San Jose was the site of major announcements by major auto manufacturers Nissan and General Motors. During their Tuesday morning speeches, both Nissan North America’s executive vice president, Carlos Tavares, and General Motors vice president of U.S. marketing, Joel Ewanick, announced that their much-anticipated products would be available in only a limited number of cities, at first, and that both companies will begin delivering cars by the end of the year.

Even though there are many similarities and differences, both Nissan and GM are betting that U.S. auto buyers will embrace the plug with open arms.
The Leaf and the Volt are the first mass-market plug-in electric vehicles to be sold in the U.S. The LEAF is a “pure” battery-electric vehicle, or BEV, and has no gasoline motor whatsoever. Its range is approximately 100 miles. The Volt, however, with an “all-electric” range of only 40 miles, augments its smaller battery pack with a gas motor that can recharge the battery while the vehicle is in motion. While this gives the Volt unlimited effective range, it means that the Volt is not truly “zero emissions”.

This also means that the Volt is a more complex vehicle, and this has apparently been reflected in the price. While the LEAF has been priced at $32,780, the Volt comes in at a much more hefty $41,000. The $7,500 Federal tax credit, and the $2,500 state credit available in CA and some other states, drops these prices to $22,780 and $31,000, respectively, putting the vehicles in completely different buyer segments... [Read More]
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Re: Nissan and GM Launch their Electric Cars; LEAF to Cost Almost $10K Less than Volt

I'd take a Leaf over the Volt any day. Since my partner and I both drive, the Leaf could be the short-range vehicle and the Insight could be the highway vehicle. I can't see paying $41k for a serial hybrid that's based on a $16k car, and in which the post-EV fuel economy is ~33 MPG (300 mile range from a 9 gallon tank = 33 MPG, not 50 MPG, and not 270 MPG).
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Re: Nissan and GM Launch their Electric Cars; LEAF to Cost Almost $10K Less than Volt

The leaf would be so perfect for me, but I do like the fact that the volt has a 60 to 65km range wich is more then I need but it also has the gas engine for when I go out of town. My fiance doesnt drive so we only need one car so I just dont know if the leaf would work in all situations for us. I would much rather have the leaf and I probably could get around the problem of long trips, and I do love the range of about 180km.
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Re: Nissan and GM Launch their Electric Cars; LEAF to Cost Almost $10K Less than Volt

Is there any chance of a tow-behind generator trailer for the Leaf?
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Is there any chance of a tow-behind generator trailer for the Leaf?
Wouldn't that make the Leaf a serial hybrid at that point?
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Re: Nissan and GM Launch their Electric Cars; LEAF to Cost Almost $10K Less than Volt

Andrew -- my request exactly!

BM, yes... for the 3-4 times I would want it per year. Or perhaps during an extended electrical outage... during which the generator could also keep my house running.

All of which is to say that for me, the choice is clearly the Leaf. Or the Focus EV.
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