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GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
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02-16-2010, 09:17 AM
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GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
 GM expects at least half their 2012 models to be Flex-fuel.
Tim Higgins - FREEP - Feb 16, 2010
What's good for GM is good for the US - right? --Ed.
Orlando -- General Motors is spending $100 million each year to build vehicles flexible enough to run on E85 fuel -- yet most drivers dont live near a gas station that sells the ethanol-gasoline blend, a top company executive said Monday.
Tom Stephens, General Motors vice chairman for global product development, is calling for more E85 pumps across the country. He said the nation needs to add 10,000 ethanol pumps to the roughly 2,000 already in place.... [Read More] |
02-16-2010, 09:42 AM
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
Who the heck cares about Flex Fuel? Even if GM had 100% fleet compatibility with E85 fuel, the percentage of the fleet actually RUNNING on E85 would be a single-digit number.
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
Hi Chuck:
___I have to wonder when GM is going to get off their E85 FFV kick? All the corn in the US converted to Ethanol would give us ~ 18% of our transportation needs. Coskata has been promising inexpensive $1.00 per gallon cellulosic for over two years and to date, GM has nothing to show for it. Let alone the FE GM vehicles receive when on the junk is horrendous!
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
My nearest E85 station is 52 miles away.
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
Hi Nevyn:
___It would be a bad decision to use it even if it were down the street!
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
The only way E85 makes sense is if:
-- It is not derived from a food source
-- It takes less energy to brew than it releases when burned
-- It actually makes a meaningful reduction in CO2 output
-- It can be made plentifully for a similar price as gasoline.
Right now, E85 fails across the board.
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
Isn't GM the group that bought public trolley systems and shut them down?
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
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Isn't GM the group that bought public trolley systems and shut them down?
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
My father in law used E-85 in his F150 for while back when prices per gallon for E-10 were in the upper $3 range... until he did the math and discovered that per mile he wasn't saving anything.
The pumps are all over the place here but almost completely unused.
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Re: GM pushing for more E85 pumps nationwide
A Dodge Durango would probably be rated for "gallons per mile" if fed E85, ha ha.
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