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Old 11-26-2009, 10:53 PM
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Help keep engine warmer for longer

Next semester starting in late January, i'm going to have 6 hrs from when i park to when i leave every Monday. I've looked at possibly adding solar panels to run my ebh, but it seems way too pricey. I need ideas to keep my engine warm for as long as possible at least during the winter so my f/e doesn't suffer too much on the way home.
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Re: Help keep engine warmer for longer

How about making the engine warm up quicker and stay warmer longer with no external power usage and a one time cost of less than $40.

Insulating your hood will make warm up times much quicker and reduce the loss of heat under the hood while driving. Saving fuel during cold starts and cold weather driving.

I've run mine for 13 months and have seen no problems and really quick warm ups. I'm at operating temperature within 2 miles from 45F and above. At 32F it takes about 4 miles of city driving.

No overheating unless you are doing all of these simultaneously:
a paper route stop and go, uphill (gravity load on engine), from paper box to paper box (3mph, ie no air flow across radiator) during the summer (95+F ambient temperature) with the fan disconnected.

Most if not all cars would overheat under those conditions. I just popped the hood, plugged the fan back in and turned on the heat for a minute, pulling the heat off the engine and resumed my task at hand. That was this May, I will unplug it in another week or two as temps drop for the winter.

With the radiator fan plugged in and operating it never goes above operating temps anytime of year under any driving conditions. I unplug my fan about this time of year to save on electricity usage and it keeps my engine warmer, I like to have my engine between 195F and 220F, around April or May I should plug it back in.

Here's the how to: Insulated hood

I would recommend the insulating for all cars, except those that only do daytime driving in the desert. I'm assuming here.

As for unplugging a fan on a vehicle, you need to know what the safe operating temperature is for your specific vehicle and seriously monitor an unplugged fan as your awareness of engine temperature is the difference between good mpg and a blown head gasket under adverse conditions. Like during heavy traffic, stop light to stoplight driving in the hottest part of the summer. Oh and be the only one who drives that vehicle while it's unplugged.

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Re: Help keep engine warmer for longer

Dale,

Thank u very much. I'm definitely gonna do that as soon as it takes ebay to ship it . I would feel very confident about unplugging the radiator fan. I constantly monitor my coolant temps with my SG. Before i started hypermiling, the hottest i saw it get was about 215. That was in the middle of summer with high humidity, running the a/c pretty much the whole time, and that still wasn't even close to overheating. It also helps reading about ur experience doing it, so i'm definitely planning to unplug it soon, seeing how it getting colder. Thanks again.
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Re: Help keep engine warmer for longer

For a 6 hour rest, I can't imagine anything short of dumping all your warm coolant into a giant vacuum thermos would do much good. I've also considered solar + EBH, but the cost/benefit puts it somewhere between silly and absurd.

I agree that accelerating warmup is a far more plausible solutions. Some manner of grill block is probably a great start. The insulated hood sounds reasonable as well, though I've not tried it. Just beware that coolant isn't the only thing under the hood that can get too hot. In my case, one of my batteries got really toasty and started throwing up acid when I left the grill block on too long one spring. The coolant was never over 210 or so.
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Just beware that coolant isn't the only thing under the hood that can get too hot. In my case, one of my batteries got really toasty and started throwing up acid when I left the grill block on too long one spring. The coolant was never over 210 or so.
Wow. I've never heard of that or even considered it. I'll have to do some checking on battery temps/ boiling over. With the engine at 210 I wouldn't have thought there would be problems like that. (I immediately scrolled up to see if you were in Arizona or a similar hot climate.... surprised to see Illinois )

Thanks for the heads up, not so much for my car but I would feel bad if someone lost a battery while trying to bring engine temps up. - Dale
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Next semester starting in late January, i'm going to have 6 hrs from when i park to when i leave every Monday. I've looked at possibly adding solar panels to run my ebh, but it seems way too pricey. I need ideas to keep my engine warm for as long as possible at least during the winter so my f/e doesn't suffer too much on the way home.

Here are some shorty type 60 watt panels for about $1 a watt..
http://sunelec.com/index.php?main_pa...roducts_id=543

The only problem is, you have to buy 4 of them.. ($336.94 shipped to MA).
I hope to use mine to counteract the heat loss in my home hot water system.


Edit:
After 5 days, I got a notice that my order was canceled. And, a number to call,
where I found out they wanted more money for shipping. More than double.
Now, the shipping is more than the panels..

I guess if it looks too good to be true.. beware.
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