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Higher Speed Limits Linked to Higher Fatalities

"We estimate that approximately 12,500 people died as a result of a policy to deregulate speed enforcement -- four times what happened on September 11th

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According to some, driving slower is more dangerous

The repeal of the federal speed control law in 1995 has resulted in an increase in road fatalities and injuries, according to researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago School of Public Health.

The research is published in the September issue of the American Journal of Public Health. It is the first long-term study to evaluate the impact of repealing the National Maximum Speed Law on road fatalities and injuries in fatal crashes between 1995 and 2005.

The law, which restricted the maximum speed limit to 55 mph on all interstate roads in the United States, was initiated in 1974 in response to the oil embargo and had an immediate impact.

"During the first year there was a drop of almost 17 percent in fatalities after the speed laws were reduced to 55 miles per hour," said Lee Friedman, assistant research professor of environmental and occupational health sciences at UIC and lead author of the study.

The law was modified in 1987 and allowed states to raise the legal speed limits to 65 mph on some interstates. In 1995, the federally mandated 55 mph speed law was revoked, allowing states to set their own speed laws.

"The primary finding of our study was that over the 10-year period following the repeal of National Maximum Speed Law, there were approximately 12,500 deaths due to the increased speed limits across the U.S.," said Friedman.

The researchers used a mixed-regression model to take into account when the speed limits changed in each state and the different characteristics within and between each state, such as car volume density, population density, variations in fleet sizes, the types of vehicles on the road, vehicle quality (newer vehicles versus older vehicles), as well as driver characteristics.

The primary flaw of previous studies has been that they have only focused on selected states or regions, said Friedman, or they have used a simple analysis to look at before versus after implementation of the law during a very short period of time.

The researchers suggest that policy makers reevaluate national policy on speed and road safety and consider reduced speed limits and improved enforcement with speed camera networks to save lives.

Speed camera programs have been implemented in England, France and Australia and have shown immediate reductions in motor vehicle crash fatalities, said Friedman.

"This is a failed policy because it was, in essence, an experiment over 10 years. People assumed that increasing the speed limit would not have an impact," said Friedman. "We've shown that something has happened and it's quite dramatic."

Friedman uses the example of the 3,000 people who died in the September 11th terrorist attacks.

"That tragic event has led to a whole foreign policy," he said. "We estimate that approximately 12,500 people died as a result of a policy to deregulate speed enforcement -- four times what happened on September 11th -- and yet changing the policy to reduce speed limits may be very difficult."

Friedman's co-authors are Donald Hedeker, UIC School of Public Health, and Elihu Richter, Hebrew University, Jerusalem.

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Re: Higher Speed Limits Linked to Higher Fatalities

History question: How did they arrive at lowering the speed limit to 55 instead of 50?
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Re: Higher Speed Limits Linked to Higher Fatalities

Well, I can't say I'm surprised that lower speeds mean fewer fatalities.
I know there is still plenty of debate about this, but I can certainly buy lower speed= less likely to die.Lots of wrecks are single vehicles- if they are going slower, they flip less, and aren't crunched as much when the hit something. Less energy means less energy to absorb.

I would certainly be game for a 65 mph limit, or even 62 mph. I-10 in TX-past San Antonio going to El Paso has an 80 mph limit(pretty deserted road , I wouldn't quibble with it too much, but lots of pickups/SUVs aren't very stable if you have to swerve to miss a deer etc).AZ hs lots of 75 mph roads.

I think I could get another mpg out of my FSP with a 65 mph limit.
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Re: Higher Speed Limits Linked to Higher Fatalities

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History question: How did they arrive at lowering the speed limit to 55 instead of 50?
Wasn't it something about the truck drivers and being "tuned for 55 MPH"?
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Re: Higher Speed Limits Linked to Higher Fatalities

Rich,

Nixon made the call, along with year-round Daylight Savings Time.

Afraid that 50 would be too slow for acceptance, Nixon compromised at 55....maybe he was afraid 50 would get him impeached.
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I cheated and looked it up. Nixon was told by his advisers that cars got the best FE at 50 mph but trucks got their best FE at 55 mph. 50 MPH with those brick like cars sounds dead on, I'm not so sure about the trucks, but maybe there was something to the 55 mph for them(my guess would be less since they were even more brick like back then-no over the cab front spoilers, but the fuel price spike was what got them-trucks-interested in aero stuff).

I wouldn't complain about a 65 mph limit. A good portion of the vehicles on the road-pickups, tall SUVs- really aren't very stable during violent avoidance maneuvers .Mine really feels right at about 65-68.I don't like its feel at 70-75, and it isn't a particularly tall , or tall tired vehicle. 65 MPH would get me 1 mpg more on long trips(5% better).
The article said the limit saved as little as 1/2 percent.Still, 1/2 percent would be 30,000 barrels/day- nothing to snear at.

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Re: Higher Speed Limits Linked to Higher Fatalities

This brings to mind a question I've had for a while. If the government is really serious about reducing independence on foreign oil and emissions wouldn't a lowered national speed limit achieve both greater independence and lower emissions?
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I encountered an alter ego of mine while is was on my epic road trip. He was the

GET ME BACK HOME ASAP ego. When the speed limit jumped to 70 in SC I was SO happy. I drove from Maine to Maryland in one day, it was a long trip, and the speed limits were usually 55 - 60 in the north. I drove from Maryland to Tampa, Florida the next day. If the limit was 55 I would not have made it and I would have been very, very unhappy. Though it would save fuel, and I know it would, I can't support anything below 65, because it would take so long to get places.

It's very anti-me, but for truckers, and people who make loooooooooong trips it would not be fun.
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Re: Higher Speed Limits Linked to Higher Fatalities

Considering the very slow rate of fatality growth over the last 50 years, I'd find it very difficult to prove higher speed limits increase fatalities.

In 2008, we had the lowest number (not rate) of fatalities since 1961.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811172.PDF

When looking at the rate, the improvement is even more astounding.
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In 2008, we had the lowest number (not rate) of fatalities since 1961.
I remember doing a News Article on that, and it attributed it to less speeding and less driving during the $4 gas that summer.
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