User Name Password    
CleanMPG, Learn to raise fuel economy and lower emissions in whatever you drive.  
MENU
• What is hypermiling? •
CleanMPG to AAA:
• Hypermiling Rebuttal •
 
• Home
• CleanMPG Staff
• Articles
• Fuel Economy Forums
      • Register
Go Hypermiling!

   Car Reviews:

2013 Elantra GT

2013 Elantra Coupe

2013 Lexus ES 300h

2013 Mazda CX-5


2013 Lexus GS 450h

2012 Prius c

2013 Malibu Eco

2012 Hyundai Accent
   Bike and Gear Reviews:

HTC Thunderbolt

2010 R 1200 GS (A)

Kawasaki KLX250SF

Zero S


Aerostich Darien

Shoei Hornet DS

Honda CRF230L

Yamaha XT250


• More Reviews
• Gallery
• Mileage Logs
 
• CleanMPG Store
 
• Calendar
• Glossary
• Garage
• Files
 
• Research
• Related Sites
 
• Archives
• Arcade
 
• Monthly Fuel Efficient •
Vehicle Sales Figures


ScanGauge with X-Gauge: $159.95

Pre-programming, a CleanMPG laser cut decal, and shipping included!



Even better value for members only is available in the latest SG-II w/ X-Gauge Group Buy purchase thread.



While we strive to provide only the highest quality information through our members' offerings, if you find the information provided valuable, please consider a donation so that we can offer an even better experience for the membership and guests well into the future.

Thank you

-Wayne Gerdes
Owner/Admin
CleanMPG



Home Fuel Economy Forums Gallery Mileage Logs

Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   CleanMPG Forums » Information » In the News


In the News News items that may be of interest. These show up on the front page.
Only Moderators may start threads, but anyone can respond to them.

Welcome to the CleanMPG forums.

Some posts may describe situations which may in some cases be unsafe or illegal in some jurisdictions. Please use common sense and consult your local laws to make sure you do not hurt yourself or others or break any laws.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view discussions, articles and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

View Poll Results: Do you consider nuclear a clean energy source?
Yes 5 83.33%
No 1 16.67%
Voters: 6. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-12-2009, 07:49 AM
Right Lane Cruiser's Avatar
Right Lane Cruiser Right Lane Cruiser is offline
Penguin of Notagascar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Vehicles: '12 LEAF SL, '02 Insight 5spd MT
Location: Coon Rapids, MN
Posts: 20,598
Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

Although spent fuel is a concern, it is being stored safely at existing plants. And France and Japan are recycling spent fuel.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/Nuclear_Plant.jpg
Kurtis Alexander - The Wisconsin State Journal - May 11, 2009

Good news, indeed! --Ed.

Momentum is building to produce more carbon-free nuclear energy in Wisconsin.

At long last, the Legislature is close to relaxing an outdated moratorium on construction of nuclear power plants in the state. And just last week, the state's flagship university won $5 million in federal grants to help develop the cleaner and more efficient nuclear plants of the future.

It's all great news for Wisconsin, which now is forced to import the bulk of its energy. Yet success will rely on the public and more lawmakers opening their minds to this improving and safer technology.

UW-Madison announced last week that the U.S. Department of Energy has granted it three years of money for 10 studies. UW won more grants than any other college or university.

The Madison campus, which is home to a small nuclear research reactor, will study ways to make next-generation nuclear plants more efficient by allowing higher temperature operation. Two of the grants will focus on computer modeling of nuclear reactor behavior.

The campus also will study nuclear fuels and fuel coatings, waste separation technology and... [Read More]
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-12-2009, 08:05 PM
juglo-j's Avatar
juglo-j juglo-j is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Vehicles: 1991 Isuzu Stylus
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 47
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

Sorry, but I still think nuclear is a no-no! How is it that something that was deemed so very unsafe now suddenly safe and clean?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-12-2009, 08:26 PM
Right Lane Cruiser's Avatar
Right Lane Cruiser Right Lane Cruiser is offline
Penguin of Notagascar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Vehicles: '12 LEAF SL, '02 Insight 5spd MT
Location: Coon Rapids, MN
Posts: 20,598
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

Check out the newer tech currently being used in France. Much more efficient, safer, and cleaner because the fuel can recycled until the waste level is much lower than what is produced by current US plants.
__________________
- Sean

<-- She got to drive an EV before I did!!

I'm a slow driver with a FASed car!

New? Start here!
Reply With Quote
  #4   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-12-2009, 09:15 PM
Earthling's Avatar
Earthling Earthling is offline
Trying to be kind to Mother Earth
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Vehicles: '07 Prius, '10 Focus, '03 BMW R1150RT
Location: Somewhere, NY
Posts: 2,886
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

No CO2, zero.

Harry
Reply With Quote
  #5   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-12-2009, 10:44 PM
Radio_tec's Avatar
Radio_tec Radio_tec is offline
Tell AAA, Saving gas saves America!
 
Join Date: May 2007
Vehicles: Camry CE w/ 5 spd manual transmission
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 458
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

It's CO2 zero only if you ignore the mining, transporting enrichment and cooling in storage tanks of spent fuel rods.

Enrichment is done in the United States using gaseous diffusion. There's only one facility that does this and it is very energy intensive. It is located in Paducah, KY and where a rathter substantial amount of their electricity is supplied by coal fired plants.

Nuclear power couldn't exist without fossil fuels and the processes to make the fuel and store the spend fuel rods emits a substantial amount of CO2. Does it emit as much CO2 as coal fired plants? Most assuradly not but it is anything but carbon free.
__________________
It is vain to do with more what can be done with less. - William of Ockham (ca. 1285-1349)
Reply With Quote
  #6   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-13-2009, 05:50 AM
juglo-j's Avatar
juglo-j juglo-j is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Vehicles: 1991 Isuzu Stylus
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 47
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

Much the same way that Ethanol is a cleaner source (not)! It takes petrochemicals to grow the corn and a huge tractor to till the soil, plant the seeds, harvest the corn, well you get the idea! What is the benefit? Plus it eats o-rings and gaskets.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-13-2009, 07:23 AM
Right Lane Cruiser's Avatar
Right Lane Cruiser Right Lane Cruiser is offline
Penguin of Notagascar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Vehicles: '12 LEAF SL, '02 Insight 5spd MT
Location: Coon Rapids, MN
Posts: 20,598
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

While energy intensive, enrichment can certainly be accomplished with power from a nuclear plant.

I'd also like to point out that modern power plant designs don't require nearly as much refinement of fuel.
__________________
- Sean

<-- She got to drive an EV before I did!!

I'm a slow driver with a FASed car!

New? Start here!
Reply With Quote
  #8   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-13-2009, 07:25 AM
MT bucket's Avatar
MT bucket MT bucket is offline
Found On Road Driving
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Vehicles: 06 Ford Ranger
Location: Minneapolis Minnesocold
Posts: 1,722
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

Nuclear is not without risks, but so is continuing on the way we are. I am for it, go cheeseheads!
__________________
Michael Thompson

MTOutdoors Photography
http://mtoutdoorspics.blogspot.com
Reply With Quote
  #9   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-13-2009, 07:36 AM
Radio_tec's Avatar
Radio_tec Radio_tec is offline
Tell AAA, Saving gas saves America!
 
Join Date: May 2007
Vehicles: Camry CE w/ 5 spd manual transmission
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 458
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

There is only one enrichment facility in the United States and it is located in Paducah, KY. Most of the electricity is generated from coal. In theory you could power a gaseous diffusion enrichment facility using a nuclear reactor but at a cost of 10 billiion dollars to construct it is the most expensive way to generate electricity on the planet. You would be adding an additional expenst to a way of generating electricity that is already very expensive.

Nuclear power has a self limiting future for three important reasons.

The risk of accidents are so high that Wall Street won't finance them. Who wants to fund a 10 million dollar asset that could turn into a 2 Billion dollar liability overnight.

They also take a long time to build. It would not be unusual for 10 years to lapse between initial planning and final construction. So coal remains as the power source.

Nuclear reactors generate tremendous amounts of heat. In fact they generate so much heat that they need prodigous amounts of water to keep their reactor cores cool enough to operate. If there's a water shortage due to lack of rain then the reactor has to shutdown. This happened last year, if I remember correctly, with two reactors in the southeastern United States where there was s severe droubt. We are likely to see more droughts in the future and this is a major impediment to nuclear power.
__________________
It is vain to do with more what can be done with less. - William of Ockham (ca. 1285-1349)
Reply With Quote
  #10   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-13-2009, 08:07 AM
Right Lane Cruiser's Avatar
Right Lane Cruiser Right Lane Cruiser is offline
Penguin of Notagascar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Vehicles: '12 LEAF SL, '02 Insight 5spd MT
Location: Coon Rapids, MN
Posts: 20,598
Re: Keep advancing nuclear power in Wisconsin

You are still focusing on the old style power plant in operation here in the States.

Yes, power plants are expensive to construct but if we decide as a nation to do this, the route France took is viable and quite an improvement over what we have now.

By the way, breeder reactors are not nearly as hot in operation.
__________________
- Sean

<-- She got to drive an EV before I did!!

I'm a slow driver with a FASed car!

New? Start here!
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Global Reinterest in Nuclear Power Chuck In the News 7 01-07-2007 09:15 AM
Hitachi, GE to build two U.S. nuclear plants. xcel In the News 0 06-26-2006 04:32 AM
DOE Issues Landmark Rule for Risk Insurance for Advanced Nuclear Facilities. xcel In the News 0 05-08-2006 11:20 PM
Wisconsin Energy Act Boosts Efficiency and Renewable Power. xcel In the News 1 03-26-2006 02:14 PM
Hybrid Power for America's Favorite Car: tigerhonaker Toyota 0 03-24-2006 10:07 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:36 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2013, Clean MPG LLC. All Rights Reserved.