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Old 04-02-2009, 07:17 PM
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Tire sidewall pressures

I live in England. All tires has pressure information on the sidewall, but always with a label saying "US and Canada only". Never any maximum pressure information for anywhere outside the US or Canada. Why is this? And how do I figure the max pressure to use for a tire? Reason I ask, on my new car, it has 3 different tires, 2 specifies a max pressure of 51 PSI, 1 specify a max pressure of 44 PSI, and 1 specify a max pressure of 36 PSI, but all with "US and Canada only" on. Does this mean it's safe for me to go to 50 PSI, even on a 36 PSI rated tire? Or should I follow the "US and Canada only" info?

(As a related note, my car manual unusually recommends a pressure of 46 PSI for the front, and 39 PSI for the rear for my model (ECO4) - but for all other models, around 25 PSI is recommended. Anyway, imagine someone who has the car, that person doesn't look at sidewalls, and 46 PSI put in the 36 PSI rated tire...)
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Re: Tire sidewall pressures

To be honest tires can take a lot of pressure.
10 PSI is not going to hurt things.

However what will kill your economy is the fact all your tires are different.
Each tire has a different grip which means you subconsciously probably fight against it with your steering wheel.

The question is it much?
Its probably significant.
Probably about 2 MPG average difference.

If I am wrong someone chime in.
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Re: Tire sidewall pressures

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I live in England. All tires has pressure information on the sidewall, but always with a label saying "US and Canada only". Never any maximum pressure information for anywhere outside the US or Canada. Why is this?
This is likely the difference in regulations. In the US, the information is required on the sidewall. I'll bet the UK regulations do not require it - and perhaps specifically indicate that it is not allowed - and the work around is to say that this only applies to US and Canada?

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..... And how do I figure the max pressure to use for a tire? Reason I ask, on my new car, it has 3 different tires, 2 specifies a max pressure of 51 PSI, 1 specify a max pressure of 44 PSI, and 1 specify a max pressure of 36 PSI, but all with "US and Canada only" on. Does this mean it's safe for me to go to 50 PSI, even on a 36 PSI rated tire? Or should I follow the "US and Canada only" info?
Your new car has 3 different tires on it? I assume that's because it is not a "NEW" car, but a used car that is new to you.

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........(As a related note, my car manual unusually recommends a pressure of 46 PSI for the front, and 39 PSI for the rear for my model (ECO4) - but for all other models, around 25 PSI is recommended. Anyway, imagine someone who has the car, that person doesn't look at sidewalls, and 46 PSI put in the 36 PSI rated tire...)

You didn't tell us what make the car is and the model doesn't translate into a model that I recognize in the US. Perhaps we know it as a different name?

You should be aware that there are different regulations around the world. Plus, people in different countries can have quite different desires, so even the same make and model may come with quite different tires.

What may be going on here is that the ECO4 uses a smaller tire, but in an Extra Load, than the other models. That would explain the difference in pressure specification.

Perhaps it would be good to read up on how tire size / inflation pressure / load carrying capacity are related:

http://www.geocities.com/barrystiretech/loadtables.html

Armed with that information, you should draw the conclusion that regardless of what is imprinted on the sidewall of a tire, if it is a Standard Load Passenger Car tire, then the rated inflation pressure is 35 psi (or 36 psi if your use the metric version of the tire standards) If the inflation pressure indicated on the sidewall is different than that - specifically 44 psi or 51 psi - then that imprinted pressure is the maximum ALLOWABLE pressure. But if the maximum pressure imprinted on the sidewall is 41 psi or 50 psi, then the tire is an XL. (Light Truck tires or Commercial tires are different and so are the rules.)

What this means in your case is that even though the tires have different maximum inflation pressures they are designed around the same inflation pressure / load carrying relationship (more or less).

You should spend a little time looking at the tire size, the load index and speed ratings for each of the tires involved. I'll bet you're going to have quite a collection of differences. If, for example, you have a V speed rating mixed in with a group of S or T rated tires (and it seems you do), then the V rated tire is going to react quite differently to changes in inflation pressure than the S or T rated tire.

So after you've collected that information, why don't you post it so we can see the entire picture? Plus it would be helpful to identify the car and the sizes as indicated above.
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Re: Tire sidewall pressures

OK - sorry for not providing enough information!

Yes, the ECO4 is new to me, but it's second hand. The ECO4 is an UK only car which is essentially a factory modified Vauxhall Astra. The Vauxhall Astra is the exact same as an Opel Astra but RHD. The Astra is sold in countries around the world, but not in the US. More info here. My car was registered in 2001, so it's 8 years old.

The tires all has the exact same ratings of 175/80/14 88T. None of the tires are original. From the factory, the car came with Michelin Energy tires. But now:

Both front - Uniroyal Rallye 680 - max load 560kg - max press 51 PSI - extremely near the legal limit
Rear nearside[1] - Michelin Energy XT1 - max load 560kg - max press 44 PSI - halfway worn
Rear offside - Nexen SB-802 - max load 599kg - max press 36 PSI - quite new
Spare - Goodyear GT2 - max load 560kg - max press 44 PSI - brand new.

I've now swapped the Nexen and Goodyear tires and have inflated rear ones to 44 PSI, and front ones to 51 PSI.

Thanks very much for your time - I really appreciate it!

[1] US's nearside, not UK's nearside.
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