___To reiterate what Dan provided regarding 1) and 2). The EV button appears to require 4 + bars to use it? The two times I tried to use it was at 3-bars and the denial message appeared. Not sure about the 34-mph limit as I was not SG-II equipped to watch the tach. Dan told me privately he may have experienced some failed glides with the SG-II’s tach displayed so the EV button still should allow a FAS in the new Prius-III where we need it. Just not sure abut the EV limits as it appears ~ 25-mph is a new limit vs. 34 mph before?
3), Yes unfortunately but we were told this back in Detroit and sure enough. The Fusion/Milan has it all over the Prius in this regard but the FFH/MMH are just too big and heavy to play with the Prius. Another item is I never saw a failed glide in the SG-II equipped MMH two weeks ago whereas Dan’s info says we may still have to deal with that
4) Pulses... For me, I was just over the EV threshold bar (within one-quarter of the distance past the EV threshold) unless climbing and probably in the 1,400 to 1,500 RPM range during my pulses. It felt similar to the –II down in that range but rarely did I see above 25 mpg during a pulse and higher R’s made it worse than the acceleration gains addition for a longer glide. The mimic cannot be used to pull a good pulse “rate” anymore as it is not resolute enough imho.
5) WS, yup.
6) Not sure about the stages as I did not have to drive through them other than the 100% highway run in the middle of the night and I idle checked at the first stop just in case
7) Warm up should allow approximately 40% higher FE during the first 5-minutes. A 25 mpg 5-minute bar should be a 35 mpg 5-minute bar now. I did not have but one of these cycles other than the night drive. All the runs took us through the same EV out to the Highway and than pick it up in speed. I never checked the 1 and 5-minute graphs while out there unfortunately.
___There is something else about the 2010 Prius-III that is really going to help everyone. While at the gas station for the final middle of the night all-highway drive and first top off, EV’ing over to the air station and spinning the car around a few times for the other tires, Danny and I were booted up for approximately 15 to 20-minutes and we did not lose a single bar of SoC! The lights were shut off of course but the NAVI was up. I believe the Inverter/Transverter and overall static draw of the system (meaning car) is much more efficient than the Prius-II’s. If the Prius-II wastes ~ 400 W, and I suspect the Prius-III is well below 300.
___Basjoos, in mid to high 30 degree temps, I did not see it even for a few seconds. SoC came up to 6 bars and held but there was no flashing current arrows into and out of the pack on the Energy screen or the nice little jump into the 70’s and 80 mpg range on the iFCD that SHM reveals. This Prius-III includes an actual EGR and the lack of the exhaust valves closing late to draw in some of the exhaust for re-burn may have removed SHM as we know it? “If
” the OEM FCD is accurate (I suspect it is over reporting as the fill shows), the Prius-III is more efficient on the highway than the –II given 65 mpg at a 50 mph DWL cruise in those temps will not yield that high of FE in an 09. I just cannot wait to see a 7-bar SoC in mid-summer with a prepped Prius-II in our hands on the highway. Then we will really know
___Sandman, look at the Insight-II Preview
and compare with the above. On the highway, the Insight-II will still take down a Prius-III but it is a lot closer for the average driver if the FCD’s can be belived.
Insight-II on a 90% all-highway drive.
Prius-III on a 90% plus all-highway drive.
___The Prius-III probably cannot achieve what the Insight allowed below 55 mph although the Insight-II drive was in 60 degree temps with the Bridgestone’s at placard while the Prius-III was driven in 37 degree temps w/ the tires at 60 psi for that single one-off all-highway drive in the final hours of the Long Lead Preview. Above 55 mph however, the Insight-II’s shorter gearing will harm it far worse than the Prius-III’s extra tall solution with the 1.8L loafing. Again, not sure about the RPM’s at various highway speeds due to lack of an SG-II
___Around town, the Prius-III like the Prius-II will eat an IMA equipped Hybrid up and spit it out as unwanted refuse.
___Green VTEC, although the Prius-III was de-contented in some respects (no large MFD), smaller HSD componentry including smaller pack without as much cooling HW and a smaller and more efficient Inverter/Transverter, it still weighs 152 pounds more than its predecessor due to additional safety equipment, slightly larger engine and Exhaust Heat Recirculation system. The 110 pounds that was being touted at the Launch/Reveal in January and even at the Preview last month is not correct from what I received from Bill Kwong a few weeks ago. I updated the spec sheet reflecting the latest and unpublished info for this Preview early this morning.
___And of course the instrumentation provides more detail mostly due to the simple HSI display but having to scroll through the various displays including 5-minute bars, energy, consumption, LKA and Laser Cruise and trip histograms to get back to the HSI display is a PIA. Both Ford and Honda have it all over Toyota regarding this issue. Fortunately once the X-Gauges are found out and used, the Prius-III will be back in business. SG-II’s are definitely going to be a Prius-III staple for the type of driving we do so we would not have to cycle the screens while driving.