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Old 03-06-2009, 10:20 PM
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Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners

Received one of those emails you know just can’t be true.
This one, to my surprise, is true. well it IS being developed.

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LIFTOFF!: Even though the Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners, it requires less net space on the ground than any plane because it doesn't need a runway. The airship takes off and lands like a helicopter: straight up and down.

This is not a Blimp. It's a sort of flying Queen Mary 2 that could change the way you think about air travel. It's the Aeroscraft, and when it's completed, it will ferry pampered passengers across continents and oceans as they stroll leisurely about the one-acre cabin or relax in their well-appointed staterooms.
http://www.aeroscraft.com/
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Dead domain, goes to Netsol. Did you type it in right?
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Re: Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners

It works for me.
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Re: Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners

If I were a passenger, I'd be playing Led Zepplin.
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Re: Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners

Ah, I love wiki. Helium was 'discovered' in spectra obtained udring a solar eclipse in 1868. About 40 years later it was discovered on earth and has been used for cryogenics and party balloons since.

Now, we are pumping out about 16 X 10^10 liters per year from oil wells. It is produced by the decay of several heavy radioisotopes in the earth, but if not trapped by the geology that also traps oil, it gets lost to space.

The earth's annual production is notably less (says wiki), about 3.4 X 10^10 liters per year. So it might be said that we are over-mining it at present.

Enter Moby, above. This site

http://www.iacac.com/pallet-oct08.pdf

says a full load of helium is 14 million cubic feet, but I cannot agree. The whole thing would fit in a 210 x 118 x 56 foot box; just under 1.4 million cubic feet. So this is an order-of-magniture error at least.

I suppose its He volume is closer to 1 x10^8 liters. So the current global He extraction could fill a thousand Mobies per year, with a little left over for superconducting magnets, other science, and clowns. If we compare to to the earth's rate of He production, over the long term we might not be able to tank up quite that many Mobies.

Now, I have to ask if they leak, or if one tank of He is good for the life of the airframe?

Overall it is hard to belive that we have enough He to revolutionize global cargo transport in this way. But it would be fun to have a few of them floating around.

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Re: Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners

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... Enter Moby, above. This site
http://www.iacac.com/pallet-oct08.pdf
says a full load of helium is 14 million cubic feet, but I cannot agree. The whole thing would fit in a 210 x 118 x 56 foot box; just under 1.4 million cubic feet. So this is an order-of-magniture error at least. ...
The 14 million cubic feet is for a larger model, 647 x 244 x 165 feet.

The pictured unit looks the same shape the smaller model, but compared to the MD-80s/90s parked in front of it, cannot have the smaller dimensions. The planes are 130-152 feet long, 29.5-30.5 feet tall at the tail, and considerably closer to the 'camera' viewpoint.

Whether or not the illustrator drew to a realistic size ...
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Re: Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners

That reminds me what happened to the "Freedom Ship"? - Dale
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Re: Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners

At their website one of the front view pics reminds me of the Raver's ship from Firefly..
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Re: Aeroscraft dwarfs the largest commercial airliners

In the long term, oil wells may be repurposed as the places we get the helium crucial for a lighter-than-air transportation fleet.

Too science-fictiony?

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Nah, just very steampunk.
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