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Live from the 2008 LA Auto Show…

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Old 11-19-2008, 12:09 PM
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Live from the 2008 LA Auto Show…

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www.laautoshow.com/

In just our second year of coverage, the 2008 LA Auto Show promises to be one of the better events we are attending both this year and next. A nice list of current and future green rides are being promised including the Ford Fusion Hybrid, Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Concept, Mini E, Toyota’s CNG powered TCH and Honda’s Insight Concept to name a few.

With Rani (Tarabell), Justin (CitrusInsighter), Randy (RedPriusII) and myself trying to provide a feel for the various presentations and launches, it will be a long and hopefully very productive two days.

To begin, Rani, Justin and I drove the 48-State HCH-II to meet Randy for breakfast at the LA Convention Center. We attended the keynote address by Carlos Ghosn and the Nissan presentation. Coming up throughout the day, BMW/Mini, VW, Honda, Ford Mazda, Audi and MB…

Questions are as always welcome and we will do what we can to have them answered right from the “horses mouth” as we take the opportunity to speak with the movers and shakers in the industry as a whole.
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Re: Live from the 2008 LA Auto Show…

Carlos Ghosn, president of Nissan/Renault gave the keynote address today and announced an agreement with the city of Portland OR to create an infrastructure for electric vehicles, which Nissan plans to introduce in 2010.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...lectric_v.html
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Re: Live from the 2008 LA Auto Show…

Note that GM and Chrysler won't be there.
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But GM still has a Hummer booth.
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But GM still has a Hummer booth.
Then maybe it was just the new models that are not showing up.

Don't you think GM would figure out by now Hummer is an anti-ad?
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Re: Live from the 2008 LA Auto Show…

Some quick notes on Carlos Ghosn, CEO of Nissan and Renault, speech and Q & A.

New news:

See Oregonian coverage of Mr. Ghosn's announcement of the state of Oregon's public commitment to development of EV charging infrastructure.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...lectric_v.html

Mr. Ghosn added that the state may remove its $1,500 HEV tax credit and replace it with a $5,000 EV credit.

According to Mr. Ghosn, Oregon Governor Kulongoski and Nissan are "...not waiting for a 'someday' solution".

Continuing...

Some general observations on the industry from Mr. Ghosn:

The credit crunch continues. Companies have great difficulty in securing financing. The immediate objective of industry participants is to "maintain [the] company", by avoiding burning cash. He referred to credit conditions as a "pending death threat" to many companies.

October 2008 was worst month for the industry in 25 years, with sales down 35%.

Further industry consolidation is likely, with surviving participants emerging seriously weakened.

The most pressing policy issues, according to Ghosn:

(1) Financial system and US economy
(2) Energy and Environment
(3) Health Care costs
(4) Global economic recession

Mr. Ghosn spoke about the need, even in stressed times, to maintain enough long term investment "until the storm is gone". There is "...always a moment when growth resumes".

Mr. Ghosn repeated Nissan and Renault's commitment to EVs, powered eventually by renewably-generated electricity. In broad terms, he covered the battery leasing model, where an operator (e.g., Better Place) or the OEM would retain ownership of an exchangeable and upgradeable battery and receive a lease or other recurring payment from the consumer. He listed countries, states, cities and provinces already committed to some form of EV infrastructure development. He reiterated mass market availability of a wide range of vehicles by 2012.

Mr. Ghosn has received "numerous" calls from political leaders around the world inquiring how they might enable EVs. He believes significant tax incentives would be necessary for consumers as well as investments by operators, governments and utilities in charging infrastructure. He also identified scale as a key factor for success. He intends to offer batteries from Nissan's joint venture with NEC to other OEMs.
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Re: Live from the 2008 LA Auto Show…

I live in LA which days and times are you planing to be there?
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Re: Live from the 2008 LA Auto Show…

Hi Escape TKM:

___We are at the Press Event and after tomorrow, back on the road to the 48-Contiguous State FE Challenge.

___Good Luck

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Re: Live from the 2008 LA Auto Show…

Hi All:

___Whoooaaaa, what a morning!!!

___While Rani and Justin were attending the VW (TDI’s), Honda (Insight-II) and Ford (FFH – Ford Fusion Hybrid) presentations, Randy and I were offered the opportunity of a life time. Mitsubishi’s i-MiEV is indeed the next generation of automobile propulsion.

Mitsubishi iMiEV – BEV

___First OEM production BEV I have ever driven.

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___Glides can be controlled with your foot so seamlessly you will never worry about a transition.

___Neutral (NEV ) allows a slightly better roll. Can control regen and assist very easily! When you lift, you have a natural roll before regen and you have three modes. D is standard Drive which allows a longer roll. ECO (Like dropping a gear but not really ) limits power output for longer range with a little more regen action upon slowing. Than B mode which really ramps up regen for coming down mountains and such.

___Spectacular!

___Good Luck

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XCEL,
I thought you were going to be at the shows.
Thanks, good luck.
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